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| Simply not good enough at the moment. I am not writing him off just yet but needs a few weeks in the 20 a. I remember we had to do the same time with Jeffries. Simple, change wood to Stand off. Ellis on bench. Think Agar knows it..
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| Have to disagree he looked ed off when he came off and think he's been made a bit of a scapegoat on here. Played as good if not better than smith and I didn't think wood offered much when he came on. Don't get me wrong I think woods been fantastic all year but don't see why John is sacrificed over smith, for me he's the one who needs a kick up the !
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| I think we certainly seem to find the flanks more with John on the field rather than without him. After he went off Trinity became very predictable with an overdose of inside balls and one dimension rugby.
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| He missed a couple of key tackles yesterday. I am not saying he was the only one, but his misses were telling especially the miss on Nero in the second half. He did himself no favours in the first half when he chose to kick with a 2 man overlap. I personally think he is trying too hard and as previously stated Smith is quite predictable with the inside ball.
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| I thought John was solid and looked busy for the most part.
The only real blunder he made was the tackle on Nero. He was solid and sent a few good passes here and there.
Think we should stick with him.
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| I thought John look and played good in first half and also the Wood was a littlie anonymous in attack in the 2nd half, probs his worst appearance so far, however defensively Wood played better than John and made a couple of big tackles on guys far bigger than him (admittedly one high one)
Team did well for 70 mins, just the last 10 that spoilt a pretty good performance, john is playing far better since the responsibility of kicking has been off loaded to Sykes, think he should stay in the starting 14 IMO 
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| Yes I agree John has his faults and its still work in progress with him. I also know he missed a couple of bad tackles but he really works very hard in defence and covers back well.
Here is a suggestion, as far as I am aware we have not tried a Wood/john combination as yet.
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| Quote jack in the box="jack in the box"Here is a suggestion, as far as I am aware we have not tried a Wood/john combination as yet.'"
I think it was Wigan when it was Wood/John ?
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| Quote trinfan71="trinfan71"He missed a couple of key tackles yesterday. I am not saying he was the only one, but his misses were telling especially the miss on Nero in the second half. He did himself no favours in the first half when he chose to kick with a 2 man overlap. I personally think he is trying too hard and as previously stated Smith is quite predictable with the inside ball.'"
I agree, but so did Wood - after watching Wood tackle today I can see why Agar doesn't have him on more. I like Wood but he has to improve his tackling.
Yes John missed a few but that were both big man - small man tackles. Wood missed them on the flank where size is not such an issue - Gibson should have been smashed into touch even by a little fellow, forgivable if his only miss. Smith on the other hand can tackle. I think John gets the not because his all round game is slightly better than Wood.
To answer the whole thread - this must have a prop nonsense is surely ended now, the backs are decent - it is definitely the pivots (with the exception of Aiton) where the problems lays.
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| I thought we looked much better before John went off, the lad is still adjusting to the UK game Ive seen enough flashes from him to see he will go OK Tim Smith can be awesome at times his passing is exceptional both ways at times.
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| been saying this for a while now but each game there is his name is on the teamsheet. clearly Agar is probably realising this now hense dragging him off. Again his game littered with missed takles, wrong options....the 3 on 1 overlap and he chose to kick was amatuer, he didnt even draw the man before he did it ! i saw two or three passes that were at players ankles, which i think we knocked on twice from, and defence and positioning poor again, I am afraid he is out of his depth and to keep hearing people saying give him time ?? How long the season is half over.
I am shocked that some people on here think he is doing great because he is not. Smith has been far better up to now.
The under 20's for John for me, and lets see what Wildie can do he has been playing well and deserves a shot.
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| Quote vastman="vastman"I agree, but so did Wood - after watching Wood tackle today I can see why Agar doesn't have him on more. I like Wood but he has to improve his tackling.
Yes John missed a few but that were both big man - small man tackles. Wood missed them on the flank where size is not such an issue - Gibson should have been smashed into touch even by a little fellow, forgivable if his only miss. Smith on the other hand can tackle. I think John gets the not because his all round game is slightly better than Wood.
To answer the whole thread - this must have a prop nonsense is surely ended now, the backs are decent - it is definitely the pivots (with the exception of Aiton) where the problems lays.'"
You obviously didn't go to the Leeds game where Wood tackled his heart out. John couldn't tackle his dinner. Hes so slow its unbelievable John in the 20's for me.
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