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| Quote Cruncher="Cruncher"I've no reason to dispute this, but I'm in agreement with Jonh in that I'd rather trust our highly professional conditioning staff than listen to Boyd2, who clearly doesn't know anything about the player at all - in terms of his physiology that is - but who, from past posts, never lets factual deficiencies like that get in the way of giving a lecture.'"
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| Feka seemed to me to be topping the scales at about 278-285lbs [About 20st in old money For me he needed to be going in at 252lbs [18st To be at his devastating best. This weight would give him the fitness to be a decent player and not be found out in defence and also the weight and bulk to be the impact prop we all know he can be. Hopefully with the talk of him getting his weight down 20lbs he can get down to optimum weight in time for the new season.
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| 18 Stone would be about the weight i'd be looking at Feka being. I'd guess he was just below that when he first came to Wigan but eveybody puts on abit of natural weight and he could afford a few extra pounds when he first came.
If he's about that weight at the start of next season and they manage to get some extra fitness into him he could be like a new signing. He's always there or thereabouts in the metres made stats and if you can get him fit enough to play just a few extra minutes and defend better we'll be well on our way to having the player we want.
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| Quote NickyKiss="NickyKiss"18 Stone would be about the weight i'd be looking at Feka being. I'd guess he was just below that when he first came to Wigan but eveybody puts on abit of natural weight and he could afford a few extra pounds when he first came.
If he's about that weight at the start of next season and they manage to get some extra fitness into him he could be like a new signing. He's always there or thereabouts in the metres made stats and if you can get him [size=150fit enough to play just a few extra minutes and defend better [/sizewe'll be well on our way to having the player we want.'"
Agreed. its just about balance. If he is better able to defend, and i'm not being critical, that frees up others to create space, instead of feeling they may need to cover.
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| Quote Wigan Peer="Wigan Peer"Agreed. its just about balance. If he is better able to defend, and i'm not being critical, that frees up others to create space, instead of feeling they may need to cover.'"
i would not expect his game time to be significantly improved, it will go up a bit i would expect, but it clear he is genetically a fast twitch dominant individual, which gives him such natural power. These fibres cannot be converted to slow twitch fibres (although there is a floating group of fibres that can switch dependant on training, but these are not in significant amounts).
Any gains he will make will be most noticeable regards his agility and also his pace, hopefully this will improve his lateral movement and not make him such a target in defence.
I would be very surprised to see anything more than 20 minute bursts but hopefully these bursts will be more effective in both attack and defence.
His quality should significantly improve even if his game time does not.
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| Thanks for the technical stuff...
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| Quote XBrettKennyX="XBrettKennyX"So a stone and a half already. Got to be good.
Hopefully Piggy is on the same diet. Looking at some footage from last year. It was embarassing. A PROFESSIONAL athlete looking like that?'"
Saying that I bet you was one of the people up on your feet shouting his name when he scored in the play offs agains KR
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| Quote MattyB="MattyB"Nah thanks, he's growing his own.'"
Was he only 21 stone. I'm not being funny but he looked more than that to me. He will have a great season because his contract has one year to run and it's obvious he is making a big effort.
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| I can't see how Feka's game would be majorly effected if he did drop to the weight he was when he first signed.
At the end of the day the Feka we signed back then was a NZ international and he isn't anymore.
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| To be honest, I think all this theorising about what his ideal weight should be is a sign that we've nothing else to talk about.
Unless we're actually on the conditioning staff and have his medical records to hand, we're not really qualified to comment other than to say that he needed to lose some weight and get fitter, which he clearly has done.
Personally I'm excited to hear that the new coaches have got to grips with this problem very quickly. As someone else has said, if he's shed two stone in a month (with a month still to go before the season starts) and is regularly being sighted jogging up to Haigh Hall and back, that can only be a good sign.
I'm still bemused as to why this wasn't done before, but that is a different conversation, which we've already had several times previously.
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| Heard a rumour today that the players have been "cagefighting". Anyone else back this up? Surely not!
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| Quote MattyB="MattyB"Heard a rumour today that the players have been "cagefighting". Anyone else back this up? Surely not!'"
Surely that can't be fair on the cages?
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