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| He isn't one. Period.
His game is suffering massively with the burden of organising the attack crushing him flat.
If this is allowed to carry on for much longer he'll be washed up.
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| Quote Mugwump="Mugwump"He isn't one. Period.
His game is suffering massively with the burden of organising the attack crushing him flat.
If this is allowed to carry on for much longer he'll be washed up.'"
It doesn't help having lance hohaia at stand off with him, he's utter rubbish and we can't keep going with him.
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| You did the same with Eastmond and havnt learnt anything from that experience. Both devastating ball runners so why try and make them ball players.
It's time to move lomax or wheeler to fb, loyalty to wellens is not helping saints move forward.
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| Never a scrumhalf. Never will be. He could be effective there with someone alongside him to do all the organising, kicking and creating, but when that man is Hohaia then he's dead meat as soon as he comes up against any top defence. I think we need the season to end right about now and to start again next season from scratch with a proper half-back pairing, preferably with an actual #7 and #6 playing #7 and #6....
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| Better start partnering him with Gaskell soon. Have it from a good source his head has been turned by an offer from Wigan for next season. A run in the first team is what will keep Gaskell focased.
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| Quote St pete="St pete"It doesn't help having lance hohaia at stand off with him, he's utter rubbish and we can't keep going with him.'"
NEITHER player is helped by their positions and roles within the team. One sure-fire way to destroy any player's confidence is to give him the role of primary tactical kicker (and co-playmaker) despite the fact that he has no recent experience of such, doesn't know his team-mates fully and with a perfectly good stand-off sat on the bench who can kick the leather off the ball.
Hohaia is a decent second kicker, but never more than that. We know from experience that you need talent to be a good kicker. Yes, training can get you pretty far. But Leon Pryce had all the training in the world (more than Hohaia will have received) and two years later he was still kicking up-and-unders behind his own head.
That said, Hohaia [idoes [/ihave very fast hands. He might not be a genuine ball handler but he doesn't half put some zip on it. He's ideally suited to hooker (especially with his prodigious workrate and tackling) and he could also be a useful scrum half. Provided his responsibility is to give Gaskell all the ball he needs and quickly I reckon he'd prove far more valuable than current worth.
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| So Wigan are tapping up contracted players are they, I do hope they have permission from Saints.
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| Quote centralparkforever="centralparkforever"Better start partnering him with Gaskell soon. Have it from a good source his head has been turned by an offer from Wigan for next season. A run in the first team is what will keep Gaskell focased.'"
If Wigan have been making offers to players in contract they will be in a bit of trouble 
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| Quote Mugwump="Mugwump"NEITHER player is helped by their positions and roles within the team. One sure-fire way to destroy any player's confidence is to give him the role of primary tactical kicker (and co-playmaker) despite the fact that he has no recent experience of such, doesn't know his team-mates fully and with a perfectly good stand-off sat on the bench who can kick the leather off the ball.
Hohaia is a decent second kicker, but never more than that. We know from experience that you need talent to be a good kicker. Yes, training can get you pretty far. But Leon Pryce had all the training in the world (more than Hohaia will have received) and two years later he was still kicking up-and-unders behind his own head.
That said, Hohaia [idoes [/ihave very fast hands. He might not be a genuine ball handler but he doesn't half put some zip on it. He's ideally suited to hooker (especially with his prodigious workrate and tackling) and he could also be a useful scrum half. Provided his responsibility is to give Gaskell all the ball he needs and quickly I reckon he'd prove far more valuable than current worth.'"
His kicking is the worst I've seen at any level of rugby and I mean even kids level, its just utter shocking.
Totally and utterly crazy idea bringing him in to play halfback.
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| Quote No1 Saint="No1 Saint"If Wigan have been making offers to players in contract they will be in a bit of trouble
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| Quote St pete="St pete"His kicking is the worst I've seen at any level of rugby and I mean even kids level, its just utter shocking.'"
His kicking is no worse than any other Saints player whose taken a shot this season (with the exception of Gaskell).
We have to remember - the reason Lance is kicking is because everybody else is shocking, too. That's an enormous burden placed on someone's shoulders - especially when he is struggling to find his own form - not to mention his team mates.
Quote St peteTotally and utterly crazy idea bringing him in to play halfback.'"
Hohaia hasn't played well. But you don't write imports off [iten weeks into their first season[/i. Slagging Hohaia is completely stupid. The guy has a FOUR YEAR contract. Precisely WHAT do you hope to achieve - other than attempting a self-fulfilling prophecy? In which case - you might as well start wearing Cherry & White - because you'll be inflicting a similar level of damage.
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