Not a bit worrying that Wigan beat them away from home 2 weeks ago 12 - 56???

Just for a bit of perspective, we had 7 u'20s playing in that game.

The make up of last night's team showed 6/7 returning first team players compared to the match against Wigan.

I think you have to look at the league over all.



There are currently 5 points seperating the top 6 teams and if you win your extra game against Wakey you too will be in that mix. If Catalan win their game against Hull then there will be 3 teams tied at the top on 20 points.



It's a tighter league. What you have to ask is are you in the mix. When you look at the teams above you have you beaten any of them this year. If you have then you are well and truely in the mix if not then you may have a few concerns for the playoffs.



If I look at my own team Saints, we've had our worse start in years, yet we are 5 points from Wigan.

When we look above and the games we played we lost to

Hull, Huddersfield, Wigan, Catalan, but they were not blow out scores.

Hull had the biggest margin but there was a score once the game was past us so it was a 6 pointer really

Huddersfield was a 1 point game

Catalan last minute try

Wigan well I did not see that one, but again it was not miles apart and we lost a halfback early on

We beat Wire at their place and we have beaten Leeds at ours.



All in all it could have been alot worse, it could have been alot better but it's still well within our own hands to make progress upwards as it is for Leeds. All the teams above will have to play each other again and so will take point of each other, which is why Hull went from 2nd to 5th in a matter of weeks. Also bar Hull we all have an interest in the cup still, so one eye will be elsewhere, with only limited trophies to win this is going to take a priority at the moment, just look at Warrington dropping briers against salford (and they could come undone there).



It's a tight season and no set of fans will be completely satisfied, so hopefully the playoffs will be less onesided this year.

I have to be honest, for all your arrogance in the pre match threads, you have been pretty graceful in defeat

Our arrogance has been earned TBF. I never mind anyone being arrogant if they have backed it up on the field, which we have over the last 7 years. Just like I dont mind Saints fans because although they havent won anything for a while, they have been there or there abouts. Its the Wire fans that annoy me. You'd think they have won everything for the last 5 years the way they go on

But at the same time, Leeds fans are knowledgeable in general and we dont mind defeat, especially when a team plays as well as Hull did last night to beat us.

THose who know the game know Leeds were poor.



Lack of direction, poor last tackle options, awful tackling, terrible discipline, lack of go-forward.



Yes, there was effort. Plenty of effort. But effort is the bare minimum we should expect from professionals. You can put in effort whilst playing badly.



As for "can't wait for the playoffs" then they will have to improve significantly on last years garbage. I've read people typing that Leeds winning it from 5th has spoiled the playoffs but actually Leeds vs Warrington saved the Playoffs last year because until that point they had been dreadful, poorer than pre season.

great game, our best performance of the year imo, still think leeds will be there or thereabouts come play offs

Going into the game I thought that it could go either way. It was my opinion that Leeds had a better set of threequarters but Hull had a better set of forwards, although many were coming back from injury. I thought that if the returning FC players fit back into the side and weren't rusty then we would have a good shot, and that's what happened because I thought that the FC pack generally dominated the Leeds pack which is what won FC the game. It probably helped that we had an 'extra' forward in Whiting because, although he was named at Stand Off, he was told to play as an extra back rower.



I thought that Peacock was the standout forward for Leeds, he made many good metres and his offloads caused several problems, but he didn't have much help as a lot of your other forwards were pretty anonymous.



What didn't help you guys was that your players seemed to get quite wound up towards the end and so instead of playing sensibly they were making errors or going in for a hit rather than ensuring they made a good tackle.



I was surprised at how little of the ball Ryan Hall saw. He's a world class player but hardly got any service all night. Maybe this was down to FC's pack being on top but I'm not so sure. There wasn't really much movement towards his wing.



Child made a few dubious decisions, but both teams got them, but I think he also made some good calls too. I know that many of you may be a bit sore about the 'forward pass' for Webb's chance (from where I was sat it looked like a flat pass, not forward) but in my eyes, and probably many FC fans, this evens out as the ball to BJB for his first try was about 2 metres forwards by the time it reached him.



Cracking play for McGuire's try at the end, that was a good move to watch.



I thought that it was a really entertaining game of rugby with a great atmosphere inside the ground.







Hull had several players returning from injury last night that weren't available for the Wigan game. Against Wigan we were missing O'Meley, O'Carroll, Seymour, Aspinwall, and Turner, all of whom featured for FC yesterday. As such we had several inexperienced players in the side for the Wigan match which kind of explains the result, although Wigan played well.







For me, I imagine the top 4 to consist of some combination of Wigan, Wire, Hudds and Catalans, with 5,6,7 being some combination of Hull, Leeds and Saints.

Well said matey - The whinos team are not the "team" they used to be - some of your players believe they are better than they are - but you ARE Champions. The Rhinos were far better when Team Spirit was based on the players who came through together - Sir Kev seems to think he IS Leeds

Great kicker but he needs others to score !!

I'd disagree with that as the passer (Webb) was also two metres forward by the time the ball arrived with Jones-Bishop - would have been more had his momentum not been checked by Crooks - which is why the referee and/or touch-judge were correct to allow the try to stand. Not saying Leeds didn't benefit from other missed forward passes (there was one from Sinfield at dummy half that stood out) just not that one.



Otherwise a perfectly reasonable post.

I thought hull played well,also defended well,we played some good stuff in patches but obviously we needed to do it for eighty minutes.

Overall a fair result, my main concern was some bad tackling,at least Brian Mac

Admitted it in the post match interveiw. One would presume he will be having a quite word !! With certain gentlemen.