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| Quote Andy Gilder="Andy Gilder"Your captain needs to be someone the team can turn to for inspiration when they're in a bit of a hole.
No disrespect intended to Danny McGuire, but that really isn't him.
The penalty given away for the late hit on Miller epitomised everything that's wrong with his game when the team are struggling. He gets frustrated, gets out of his game and goes looking for confrontation either with opponents or officials.
He's got the job effectively by default. Three members of the senior player group all going at once, injuries and indiscretions of others have ruled them out of the running. He's one of the few senior players who will be on the field for 80 minutes in most games.'"
I agree which is partly why I suggested JJB. Though I'd also I think it helps having a captain who is on the pitch a lot, something which might not be the case for JJB.
Other people have floated the idea of Ablett, Cuthbertson or Hardaker. I don't think Ablett has the "inspiration" aspect nor do I think he'd make a good captain. Hardaker it's way too early for. He needs to concentrate on himself and his own game and ensure his own attitudes are the correct ones. And at the moment I don't think he'd make a good captain. Cuthbertson's a maybe from me. He'll be on the pitch a lot but not all the time. He seems to have "bought in" to the club but things can change with overseas players especially.
In the end a lot will depend on how the candidates act and interact with the other players off the pitch. That was a big aspect to both Sinfield & Peacock gaining the respect of the other players.
Unfortunately we aren't going to immediately find another Sinfield, so we've got to go with the best of what we have.
Though whoever gets the job is still going to require the support of other leaders in the squad such as JJB, hopefully the likes of Cuthbertson can fill some of the leadership role of Peacock too.
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| Is McGuire set to be the Cummins of this era?
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| Quote The Eagle="The Eagle"Is McGuire set to be the Cummins of this era?'"
In what way?
I don't think anyone is questioning McGuire's place in the side in the way that Franny's was on many occasions, but I think there are certainly parallels in terms of their suitability to be captain.
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| Quote Andy Gilder="Andy Gilder"Your captain needs to be someone the team can turn to for inspiration when they're in a bit of a hole.
No disrespect intended to Danny McGuire, but that really isn't him.
The penalty given away for the late hit on Miller epitomised everything that's wrong with his game when the team are struggling. He gets frustrated, gets out of his game and goes looking for confrontation either with opponents or officials.
He's got the job effectively by default. Three members of the senior player group all going at once, injuries and indiscretions of others have ruled them out of the running. He's one of the few senior players who will be on the field for 80 minutes in most games.'"
But not all inspiration is in the same form. There are plenty of moments you can pick out over his career when he has stepped up and inspired when needed.
Personally I think if Ward was fit for the start of the season he may well have got the gig.
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| Quote Andy Gilder="Andy Gilder"Your captain needs to be someone the team can turn to for inspiration when they're in a bit of a hole.
No disrespect intended to Danny McGuire, but that really isn't him.
The penalty given away for the late hit on Miller epitomised everything that's wrong with his game when the team are struggling. He gets frustrated, gets out of his game and goes looking for confrontation either with opponents or officials.
He's got the job effectively by default. Three members of the senior player group all going at once, injuries and indiscretions of others have ruled them out of the running. He's one of the few senior players who will be on the field for 80 minutes in most games.'"
I disagree with the first assumption - the Huddersfield game shows what he can do and that is far from an isolated incident - he has dragged this team out of the mire numerous times.
He is passionate and sometimes that gets the better of him but is that such a bad thing? You could pick out the Cas game when Sinfield went in with head or the Leigh game when Peacock went in with his fists both in games when the team was up against it!!
He needs to modified his persona on the pitch especially towards refs - but if "you are ever in a jam, I'm your man" McGuire is the man and he has proved it so many times it is only a matter of time before he does it again.
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| Quote rhinos21="rhinos21"But not all inspiration is in the same form. There are plenty of moments you can pick out over his career when he has stepped up and inspired when needed.
Personally I think if Ward was fit for the start of the season he may well have got the gig.'"
Rubbish. Are you suggesting the club have changed who will be the captain for the season (and most likely the following season) because ward will miss the early rounds of the coming season? No. If ward was the choice he would be captain with a vice captain named who would pick up the slack at the start of the season.
Luckily the club have more good sense.
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| I don't understand the McGuire bashing on here. He's gone from support player to arguably a top class halfback. McGuire is no mug. He's won just as much as Sinfield. He's been involved in exactly the same situations as Sinfield. In September/October he was the best player in SL. McGuire's biggest challenge is making things tick with a rookie partner rather than Kev. To do that, Hardaker, Burrow, Cuthbertson etc will have to take up a lot of the slack left by JP & Kev. They are all treble winners. They all know what it takes to get results.
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| Quote Stevosfalseteeth="Stevosfalseteeth"I don't understand the McGuire bashing on here. He's gone from support player to arguably a top class halfback. McGuire is no mug. He's won just as much as Sinfield. He's been involved in exactly the same situations as Sinfield. In September/October he was the best player in SL. McGuire's biggest challenge is making things tick with a rookie partner rather than Kev. To do that, Hardaker, Burrow, Cuthbertson etc will have to take up a lot of the slack left by JP & Kev. They are all treble winners. They all know what it takes to get results.'"
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| Quote Stevosfalseteeth="Stevosfalseteeth"I don't understand the McGuire bashing on here. He's gone from support player to arguably a top class halfback. McGuire is no mug. He's won just as much as Sinfield. He's been involved in exactly the same situations as Sinfield. In September/October he was the best player in SL. McGuire's biggest challenge is making things tick with a rookie partner rather than Kev. To do that, Hardaker, Burrow, Cuthbertson etc will have to take up a lot of the slack left by JP & Kev. They are all treble winners. They all know what it takes to get results.'"
There are some posters on here - notably Gotcha and Gilder who simply don't rate him. IMO their view is clouded by their opinions on Sinfield and his influence on the team and in their eyes McGuire will never match up. His record is every bit as good as that of Sinfield. I am unsure what're he can do to prove to them what he is capable of.
To say he is not a player his team mates look to get them out of the mire is simply ludicrous - deeds on the pitch give tangible evidence of his influence. His tries scored is unmatched in the modern era and his assists will also not be far off being the best since the inception of SL.
To also suggest virtually any player in the side would make a better captain is equally nuts - what is that opinion based on? When have the likes of Ward/Ablett or Hardaker ever captained the side?
Sinfield was great player but he didn't carry the team on his own - he was surrounded by a core of equally great players - including McGuire - who enabled him to do his stuff, that is too often overlooked on here.
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| Quote Fallon="Fallon"Rubbish. Are you suggesting the club have changed who will be the captain for the season (and most likely the following season) because ward will miss the early rounds of the coming season? No. If ward was the choice he would be captain with a vice captain named who would pick up the slack at the start of the season.
Luckily the club have more good sense.'"
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| Quote Sal Paradise="Sal Paradise"There are some posters on here - notably Gotcha and Gilder who simply don't rate him. '"
Where have I said I don't rate him as a player David? You're the one least likely to be impartial in any McGuire discussion given your career-long connection to him, no?
I haven't a single shred of doubt about his ability to produce individual moments of high quality.
What I doubt is that his ability to bring those alongside him up to his level is not up to the same standard as the likes of Sinfield and Peacock. There's a big difference between being able to produce yourself, and getting others around you to produce their best.
If the team is in a hole and they look up to see their captain taking cheap shots at people - and let's not pretend Boxing Day was an isolated incident in the way Sinfield/Dorn was - or flapping around dementedly in the face of the officials, do you think that represents good leadership?
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| Quote Stevosfalseteeth="Stevosfalseteeth"I don't understand the McGuire bashing on here. He's gone from support player to arguably a top class halfback. McGuire is no mug. He's won just as much as Sinfield. He's been involved in exactly the same situations as Sinfield. In September/October he was the best player in SL. McGuire's biggest challenge is making things tick with a rookie partner rather than Kev. To do that, Hardaker, Burrow, Cuthbertson etc will have to take up a lot of the slack left by JP & Kev. They are all treble winners. They all know what it takes to get results.'"
Stop being so precious...
I don't see anybody here "McGuire bashing" in so far as his playing abilities are concerned; rather just his credentials to be a team captain. Many others have aready highlighted/given examples of what is meant by this: suffice to say keep your knickers untwisted.
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