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| Quote Frosties.="Frosties."My guess that McGuire is a stop gap for Hardaker, Ward or Sutcliffe to have the captaincy long term.'"
My guess is that McGuire will hold the captaincy until he loses his place by which time Lilley will also be in the running.
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| McGuire captain for 2 years, then Ward will replace him. People suggesting Hardaker or Ablett must be joking. Two of the most petulant, niggly characters around!
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| Who was captain for the NZ game? McGuire was sensational in that game, ripped NZ to pieces
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| When Danny gives it up, Zak for captain. Hopefully a nice bonus, which will be a small part of keeping him from going down under.
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| Long term I see ward being named captain. Playing lose and taking on the level head sinfield roll. Zak should be vice as on the field he gives 100% every game and will always put his hand up when the going gets tough. Similar to the JP motivational role.
McGuire will be captain for the next two years and in my opinion deserves it. He's done enough good on his career to be given the opportunity to prove he's grown up and can be that leader we need.
Also, I really don't think there's anyone else even if they wanted to give it to someone else. Abbo has all the same petulance as mags. Burrow might not even get in the team if Lilly keeps developing the way he is. Ward is out for half the season, same with JJB. And cuthbo, the great man he is Has only been at the club a year.
Mags captain with cuthbo/JJB/ward/Zak leadership team around him.
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Quote Joshheff90="Joshheff90"Long term I see ward being named captain. Playing lose and taking on the level head sinfield roll. Zak should be vice as on the field he gives 100% every game and will always put his hand up when the going gets tough. Similar to the JP motivational role.
McGuire will be captain for the next two years and in my opinion deserves it. He's done enough good on his career to be given the opportunity to prove he's grown up and can be that leader we need.
Also, I really don't think there's anyone else even if they wanted to give it to someone else. Abbo has all the same petulance as mags. Burrow might not even get in the team if Lilly keeps developing the way he is. Ward is out for half the season, same with JJB. And cuthbo, the great man he is Has only been at the club a year.
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Mags captain with cuthbo/JJB/ward/Zak leadership team around him.'"
A fair assessment. I would have considered Burrow as a potential better captain, but as you say he is not as likely to actually be on the field. At best he will continue in the 'super-sub' role.
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Quote Joshheff90="Joshheff90"Long term I see ward being named captain. Playing lose and taking on the level head sinfield roll. Zak should be vice as on the field he gives 100% every game and will always put his hand up when the going gets tough. Similar to the JP motivational role.
McGuire will be captain for the next two years and in my opinion deserves it. He's done enough good on his career to be given the opportunity to prove he's grown up and can be that leader we need.
Also, I really don't think there's anyone else even if they wanted to give it to someone else. Abbo has all the same petulance as mags. Burrow might not even get in the team if Lilly keeps developing the way he is. Ward is out for half the season, same with JJB. And cuthbo, the great man he is Has only been at the club a year.
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Mags captain with cuthbo/JJB/ward/Zak leadership team around him.'"
A fair assessment. I would have considered Burrow as a potential better captain, but as you say he is not as likely to actually be on the field. At best he will continue in the 'super-sub' role.
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| These traits of Mags' have been pointed out before i think he's a sound enough captain when we are winning and playing well with momentum but when it gets into a grind starts going wrong and we are behind/getting outplayed i don't think he's got the character to lead from the front and pointed it out last year.
Whatever we think on here it's his to lose although personally i'd go with Cuthbo/Zak then give it to Ward longer term in a year or 2.
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| I would say it has to be McGuire on the basis on not too many with the credibility or availability to do it this year.
JJB and Ward will missa fair slice of games. Abblet does not seem vocal enough and Zak over McGuire would see a dummy spit somewhere along the way.
I also thin IF Sutcliffe makes it as a 6 that Lilley will replace McGuire in 2017 anyway and Zak or Ward will take over the armband.
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| Short term - either McGuire or JJB until they retire.
Long term - either Sutcliffe or Ward. Both seem level headed and would be good replacement for Sinfield in my opinion.
I've not seen anything from Ablett to suggest he's the best candidate for captain. That's not a criticism of him. Not everyone is.
As for Hardaker, maybe in the future but he'll have to mature a lot and show different aspects to his personality than he is now. In fact he'd be pretty much last on my list of major players id want as captain at the moment. Again, not necessarily a criticism, the team needs different types of players in different roles.
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| Quote Him="Him"Short term - either McGuire or JJB until they retire.
Long term - either Sutcliffe or Ward. Both seem level headed and would be good replacement for Sinfield in my opinion.
I've not seen anything from Ablett to suggest he's the best candidate for captain. That's not a criticism of him. Not everyone is.
As for Hardaker, maybe in the future but he'll have to mature a lot and show different aspects to his personality than he is now. In fact he'd be pretty much last on my list of major players id want as captain at the moment. Again, not necessarily a criticism, the team needs different types of players in different roles.'"
Good assessment and conclusions. I would add Lilley to the future contenders list.
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| Quote Him="Him"Short term - either McGuire or JJB until they retire.
Long term - either Sutcliffe or Ward. Both seem level headed and would be good replacement for Sinfield in my opinion.
I've not seen anything from Ablett to suggest he's the best candidate for captain. That's not a criticism of him. Not everyone is.
As for Hardaker, maybe in the future but he'll have to mature a lot and show different aspects to his personality than he is now. In fact he'd be pretty much last on my list of major players id want as captain at the moment. Again, not necessarily a criticism, the team needs different types of players in different roles.'"
I agree with most of what you say. My only comment would be that as jjb is injured and is possibly in his last year I wouldn't think of him as an option.
That being the case all roads lead to mags in the short term.
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| Your captain needs to be someone the team can turn to for inspiration when they're in a bit of a hole.
No disrespect intended to Danny McGuire, but that really isn't him.
The penalty given away for the late hit on Miller epitomised everything that's wrong with his game when the team are struggling. He gets frustrated, gets out of his game and goes looking for confrontation either with opponents or officials.
He's got the job effectively by default. Three members of the senior player group all going at once, injuries and indiscretions of others have ruled them out of the running. He's one of the few senior players who will be on the field for 80 minutes in most games.
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