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| Quote Rufus' Headband="Rufus' Headband"according to the BBC he only wants to come over and then go back to Australia in 2 years. Not sure I agree with this type of signing......'"
If he comes over and plays to a standard that earns him an NRL contract then i will be happy. Good to see a kid with some ambition.
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| Quote nick hkr="nick hkr"Why does everyone seem to think only a head coach signs players? It isn't always the case and often a coach is asked to give a list of what they are looking for and possibly some suggestions then the club goes out and makes the signings. A coach does just that...coaches the side.
I would also say that Phil Lowe has quite a good idea of who is worth a contract and who isn't. The depth of next seasons squad will be better than this years while the indevidual quality might not be so high end.
With us replacing people like Vella with O'Hara and Paea, Fisher with Withers, Cook with Horne, Colbon with Hodgson, Brisk with Misi along with bolstering our numbers with people like this Griffin I don't see why it's such an issue with who is signing them? 80% of them are younger, better and should suit our style of play a lot better.'"
Anyway, to come back to this.
Yes, a coach does coach the side, but when you're changing coaches the players should be that in coming coaches selections. Otherwise, when things don't go well you have the scenario of "Well, I'm coaching someone else's team".
We should be starting from scratch, a new vision, a new set up, a new way of doing things. The board's job is to facilitate that vision by providing the players (where possible) that the coach selects. Otherwise, why bother having one?
Any of us could turn a team out on the park given a bunch of players, the job of a coach is to select, garner (with the boards assistance) and meld a group of players into a cohesive structure.
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| We do have a new way of doing things!
The club is assembling a squad and then appointing a quality coach that can get the best out of his resources whilst being given the flexibility ( salary cap ) to bring in a couple of additions of his choosing. Seems to make perfecy sense to be.
Alternativley maybe you would prefer it if we hade made no preperation for next season yet and then appoint a coach that is likely to have limited knowledge of the british market and try to start signing players that are not already tied up in october?
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| Quote ML RED="ML RED"We do have a new way of doing things!
The club is assembling a squad and then appointing a quality coach that can get the best out of his resources whilst being given the flexibility ( salary cap ) to bring in a couple of additions of his choosing. Seems to make perfecy sense to be.
Alternativley maybe you would prefer it if we hade made no preperation for next season yet and then appoint a coach that is likely to have limited knowledge of the british market and try to start signing players that are not already tied up in october?'"
Or alternatively get out there and appoint a coach immediately after announcing your old one is leaving instead of waiting over a month before you start interviewing. Get him in place and let him select his own signings. If you were making quality additions then it's not such a problem but some of these recent signings just smack of depseration and cheapness.
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| Quote BESTY="BESTY"Or alternatively get out there and appoint a coach immediately after announcing your old one is leaving instead of waiting over a month before you start interviewing. Get him in place and let him select his own signings. If you were making quality additions then it's not such a problem but some of these [urecent signings just smack of depseration and cheapness[/u.'"
Or the fact that they are cheap and worth a punt on to see if we can turn them into something good? Abit like Luaiki(spelling) at FC and leaving the majority of the Cap we have left so the new coach can bring good experienced additions to the squad that he thinks will benefit the side?
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| I just think you'd have been a lot better served appointing a coach when it was clear Morgan was going and let him make his own signings instead of throwing a bunch of average players at him. I think you already have (as we have) enough mediocre players and expecting 2 or 3 quality additions to offset that is too ambitious. We'll see in the fullness of time.
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| Quote BESTY="BESTY"I just think you'd have been a lot better served appointing a coach when it was clear Morgan was going and let him make his own signings instead of throwing a bunch of average players at him. I think you already have (as we have) enough mediocre players and expecting 2 or 3 quality additions to offset that is too ambitious. We'll see in the fullness of time.'"
Have you not stopped and thought to realise that maybe these quality coaches were tied down with their current jobs and were only available to discuss terms after such a period.
But, yes, we could have appointed a coach immediately and let them make their own signings, but this coach would probably have been on the scale of R.Agar, or indeed worse...
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| Out of curiosity, was Morgan announced as leaving before Pearson took over Hull?
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| Quote World of Redboy="World of Redboy"Out of curiosity, was Morgan announced as leaving before Pearson took over Hull?'"
Think so, might be wrong. Why?
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| Quote ML RED="ML RED"We do have a new way of doing things!
The club is assembling a squad and then appointing a quality coach that can get the best out of his resources whilst being given the flexibility ( salary cap ) to bring in a couple of additions of his choosing. Seems to make perfecy sense to be.
Alternativley maybe you would prefer it if we hade made no preperation for next season yet and then appoint a coach that is likely to have limited knowledge of the british market and try to start signing players that are not already tied up in october?'"
It's a ludicrous way of going about things. At the very worst coaches inherit a team that the previous incumbrant has painstakingly assembled. It's often, unless you are McGuire, difficult enough to mould someone else's team into the one you want.
That situation is difficult.
But to arrive and be offered a rag bag mixture of cheap and cheerful off cuts that your all singing all dancing new chairman has taken it upon himself to deem are required is unusual at the very least. Beyond the pale at most. He'll have to hope Hudge has saved a bit of cap room and has the money to spend, or your new man will be in the unenviable position of inheriting a team a cash strapped solicitor has randomly mustered up.
Problem is, Neil's previous attempts at signings, Cooke and Msson, weren't relevant to Morgan's plans and both unravelled into destructive disasters that actually undermined what Morgan was doing on the pitch. So Hudge's track record isn't great.
Hope it doesn't put anyone off.
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| Quote WormInHand="WormInHand"It's a ludicrous way of going about things. At the very worst coaches inherit a team that the previous incumbrant has painstakingly assembled. It's often, unless you are McGuire, difficult enough to mould someone else's team into the one you want.
That situation is difficult.
But to arrive and be offered a rag bag mixture of cheap and cheerful off cuts that your all singing all dancing new chairman has taken it upon himself to deem are required is unusual at the very least. Beyond the pale at most. He'll have to hope Hudge has saved a bit of cap room and has the money to spend, or your new man will be in the unenviable position of inheriting a team [ua cash strapped solicitor [/uhas randomly mustered up.
Problem is, Neil's previous attempts at signings, Cooke and Msson, weren't relevant to Morgan's plans and both unravelled into destructive disasters that actually undermined what Morgan was doing on the pitch. So Hudge's track record isn't great.
Hope it doesn't put anyone off.'"
Id love to be as cash strapped as him; pretty sure 99.9% of the people on here would aswell.
Not doing bad if hes skint is he really.... sponsors the KC East Stand, a stand at Elland Road, runs a rather large solictors company. Offsets the clubs own funding by putting his own money into the club.
Dont let facts get in the way of your FC blinkers though will you pal. 
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| Quote WormInHand="WormInHand"It's a ludicrous way of going about things. At the very worst coaches inherit a team that the previous incumbrant has painstakingly assembled. It's often, unless you are McGuire, difficult enough to mould someone else's team into the one you want.
That situation is difficult.
But to arrive and be offered a rag bag mixture of cheap and cheerful off cuts that your all singing all dancing new chairman has taken it upon himself to deem are required is unusual at the very least. Beyond the pale at most. He'll have to hope Hudge has saved a bit of cap room and has the money to spend, or your new man will be in the unenviable position of inheriting a team a cash strapped solicitor has randomly mustered up.
Problem is, Neil's previous attempts at signings, Cooke and Msson, weren't relevant to Morgan's plans and both unravelled into destructive disasters that actually undermined what Morgan was doing on the pitch. So Hudge's track record isn't great.
Hope it doesn't put anyone off.'"
Hudge loves signing players and tbf, for what he's done for our club most fans would allow him to do anything he wants, he's pretty much earned it.
You're right, it didn't work out when we had a coach so this way Hudge can sign all the players he fancies and then sign a coach who he thinks can do a job. Obviously he'll leave the coach a bit of cap space to get his own welcome presents.
It's a genius plan.
After over a decade as chairman, I'm not sure you can refer to Hudge as an "all singing all dancing new chairman".
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