If Lawton would get Leuluai aggression I think he could be a top prospect.I will never knock Leuluai commitment but if we want to go up a level we need better players than him.A few look average like Pickgersgill,Kavs,White and Hock has not done much either.Definitely missing Joseph,Gerrard,and Cross in the props department.

He has improved slightly of late but come November I hope he is shown the door with a few others.

He would be a very good signing for quite a few clubs, but probably not SL clubs.



He needs more experience to match his commitment.



Perhaps a change of position might assist his development.

As I've said in Vikingman's thread about retentions, I would expect him to stay another year. He clearly has to be sat down and told to get his shoulder charge out of his game (he can still hit them with his chest with his arms open for the tackle as far as I know, but any contact with his arms crossed will cost him and us dear).



I think DB can see measurable progress in him this season and that coupled to the bags of effort he always puts in makes him a Betts sort of player who I suspect feels that he can kick on further next year. The game is so attritional that you need plenty of cover. Maybe they can beef him up a bit more and turn him into another Joseph?



Other than his shoulder charges he has played pretty well in his last few games. He may never develop beyong being a back up player but at least he brings something to the party now other than his enthusiasm.

We need to finish in the top 10 next season or were back in the championship. Players like leuluai, Isa, Pickersgill, O'carroll are just not good enough, they need to be replaced with quality. I can see all the other teams strengthening in the off season and we need to recruit better if we want to dine at the top table.

We have missed Ben Cross when has been injured. We need another two props like Big Ben to give us the strength in the pack.

Well we clearly are not going to get rid of all those players are we, O'Carroll has been playing well (OK he wore the wrong studs on Monday, but other than that he drives it in hard and we signed him on a decent contract last year, Pickersgill's form has dipped of late but again I think we have signed him up for a couple of years. Isa and Leuluai could go but I think Leuluai will stay another year and he has provided good cover.



Unfortunately barring Clarke we have missed a few old heads in the pack to keep everything calm when things are tight as OV has said Ben Cross' absence has cost us dear in a few games. If the rumour on the other thread that Carvell is going to the Bulls next year is true we desperately need to find someone of a similar calibre. I doubt that we will be in a position to attract a player of Ben Cross' experience from the NRL.

Lets get VIQI in to pay towards a experienced prop forward like Cross.Definitely missed his presence and Ashame the injuries has taken the Toll on the guy.You all might laugh but I also think we miss Alex Gerrards work rate.

It would be interesting to see what the metres made is for the likes of Ocarroll and Pickersgill.

No-one will laugh

as you are perfectly correct. He really is missed as his tackling is immense and he drives the ball forward all day.

He hasn't been charged by the Disciplinary Committee, penalty deemed sufficient punishment.

Pickersgil wasn't good enough for us in the championship let alone in the super duper league. Utter pants,his performace at weeds the other night was proof of that. Useless