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| Quote GSF="GSF"Not sure what Widnes nightlife has got to do with a debate about yellow bellied 'fans' unfurling the white flag but you do seem to have a grudge against Steve O'Connor.What will you do when the Saints Chairman tells you to fook off?Hot foot it down the road to Wiggin?
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I can't see that happening. McManus seems to be a rugby league man. As for nightlife, I'm just interested in having a decent pint before the game next week. Obviously, that can't be done because there's no decent pubs in Widnes. Anyway, you just concern yourself with getting Widnes people watching their home town rugby league team at the stadium rather than them pretending to be Mancs or Scousers. That way, you just might average 6,000 a game and who knows, when McManus gets a 12 team Super League, Widnes might be in it. After all, my council tax funded your stadium when I was living in Runcorn.
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| I was wondering why you had the Saints badge as your avatar.
I do find it a bit strange you could turn coats after you've allegedly been told to do one and also because you can't find a pint of real ale before a game. Lots of chairmen come and go but clubs in the main tend to stay put. It'd take a bit more than that for me to turn against a side I've supported all my life (or best part of).
Life would be a very lonely place if I took my ball home every time I hit a problem that didn't go my way.
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| Exactly Redchemic.If Ste O'Connor told me where to go I would reply in kind and inform him that he wouldn't force me away from my club.I reckon the fake fan was just looking for an excuse to abandon ship and go glory hunting at Saints.Like I say,you don't get turn coats turning up at a less successful club do you?He's in good company there anyway,they have one or two other frauds who used to be Widnes 'fans'.They probably meet up before a game in a real ale pub and talk about our club.It's tough being a Widnes fan at the minute,has been for a number of years but at least we still have our self respect and dignity.
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| Quote Doc Holliday="Doc Holliday"It's not closer. It's easier to get to. Apart from that,[size=150 Steve O'Connor tols me and my lad to **** off [/sizeat the Halifax play-off game in 2008 when we asked him why he was changing the match days from Sunday to Friday, so we ****** off. By the way, your Chairman had no interest in his home town rugby teal for 42 years so when it comes to glory hunting, we're not in the same league as him. Enjoy next Saturday. I'm sure I will!
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If thats all it takes well **** off this board you turncoat your worse than any wire that comes on here. It doesn't matter who SOC is I'll still be a Widnes fan long after he's gone. So what if you watched Widnes for 32 years if you was a true supporter you would care what 1 person said to you.
So **** off and don't come back.
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| Quote Redchemic="Redchemic"I was wondering why you had the Saints badge as your avatar.
I do find it a bit strange you could turn coats after you've allegedly been told to do one and also because you can't find a pint of real ale before a game. Lots of chairmen come and go but clubs in the main tend to stay put. It'd take a bit more than that for me to turn against a side I've supported all my life (or best part of).
Life would be a very lonely place if I took my ball home every time I hit a problem that didn't go my way.'"
I haven't watched Widnes or any other club since the end of the 2008 season apart from once when a mate of mine who had never seen a game wanted to watch one and we went to a Widnes game. Like a lot of other people who stopped going, you just find other things to do with your time and money. Of course I hope Widnes do well because it means something to a lot of people I know and like. But when we moved house I found it's very easy to get to St Helens and especially easy getting home from an evening game. So, I watch St Helens and Prescot Cables and in the summer, Liverpool Buccaneers and Liverpool City. Anyway, have a good season and hopefully a good game next Saturday.
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| If your going to jump ship there are better options than saints. At least the mighty Vikings can beat a 'weakened' Wigan team 
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| Quote Snake Plisskin="Snake Plisskin"If your going to jump ship there are better options than saints. At least the mighty Vikings can beat a 'weakened' Wigan team
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Yes, but it's a walk and two busses to get to Widnes and the service is unreliable. We were thinking of moving to Widnes about three years ago but I'm at the stage where I wanted to be back home with the family. I like Widnes people generally, but there's a lot more things to do here with all the theatres, pubs and a little bit of political activism thrown in.
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| Quote Doc Holliday="Doc Holliday"Yes, but it's a walk and two busses to get to Widnes and the service is unreliable. We were thinking of moving to Widnes about three years ago but I'm at the stage where I wanted to be back home with the family. I like Widnes people generally, but there's a lot more things to do here with all the theatres, pubs and a little bit of political activism thrown in.'"
I remember you on the Widnes board mate and was very knowledgeable on rugby.But I could not support another team even if closer to it.I travel from Gloucester which is further mate and I would
not jump ship because a chairman told me to Fu ck off.You support the Town and club.I would have just argued back or punched him.  Anyway buy a car and you are always welcome back mate.Pint on me.
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| Each to their own, thick n thin and all that!
It's not the way I'd have done it. I go into Liverpool (absolutely love the place) quite often to pubs like the Ship & Mitre and the theatre. It doesn't kill me to do so.
I follow LFC too. I got a letter from them requesting money to simply stay on a season ticket waiting list that I'd been on for years. I took that to be a fu ck off from the chairman by proxy. I didn't go off to support Man U or City though.
All the best to you anyway Ron.
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| Quote Doc Holliday="Doc Holliday"Yes, but it's a walk and two busses to get to Widnes and the service is unreliable. We were thinking of moving to Widnes about three years ago but I'm at the stage where I wanted to be back home with the family. I like Widnes people generally, but there's a lot more things to do here with all the theatres, pubs and a little bit of political activism thrown in.'"
Stop being soft, and get on those busses, Ron.
There are people who come from much further than Liverpool to watch Widnes.
Am I right in thinking that this really has to do with the attitude of some Widnes fans towards you, because you are a scouser?
I seem to recall something along those lines.
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| Quote Pepe="Pepe"Stop being soft, and get on those busses, Ron.
There are people who come from much further than Liverpool to watch Widnes.
Am I right in thinking that this really has to do with the attitude of some Widnes fans towards you, because you are a scouser?
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There's certainly an anti-scouse and anti-Runcorn attitude among many of the clowns on The Truss messageboard, but there's also a racist one on there too. But, if the moderators want that sort of thing to exist, that's up to them. The thing holding Widnes back isn't some bloke who has never lived in Widnes deciding not to bother, but several thousand people deciding to become followers of some Premiership club while their home town club is struggling. They're the people to aim at. It's their town, not mine. As I said, apart from one game, I haven't watched Widnes since 2008 until the pre-season at Langtree Park. Nothing at all against the fans or the players and I hope everything goes well for them. Goodness knows they deserve it. So, after a couple of years with no team, I find myself in the position of having one which is very easy to get to and as a lover of the game, I intend to get there as often as possible because I've missed going to see a live game. It just happens to be Saints, but I'd be as happy watching any club. The game is the thing! Premiership soccer will never equal it.
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| Quote Doc Holliday="Doc Holliday"There's certainly an anti-scouse and anti-Runcorn attitude among many of the clowns on The Truss messageboard, but there's also a racist one on there too. But, if the moderators want that sort of thing to exist, that's up to them. The thing holding Widnes back isn't some bloke who has never lived in Widnes deciding not to bother, but several thousand people deciding to become followers of some Premiership club while their home town club is struggling. They're the people to aim at. It's their town, not mine. As I said, apart from one game, I haven't watched Widnes since 2008 until the pre-season at Langtree Park. Nothing at all against the fans or the players and I hope everything goes well for them. Goodness knows they deserve it. So, after a couple of years with no team, I find myself in the position of having one which is very easy to get to and as a lover of the game, I intend to get there as often as possible because I've missed going to see a live game. It just happens to be Saints, but I'd be as happy watching any club. The game is the thing! Premiership soccer will never equal it.'"
Fair enough, Ron.
As far as your political activism goes; Francis Maude, George Osborne and David Cameron. You get the rope and I'll kick the chairs. 
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