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| Quote carl_spackler="carl_spackler"Of course it's happened sometimes, it will for all players. I said that it [itypically[/i isn't the case. Holdsworth did it for about the last month and a half of our season.'"
I'd say it is typically the case with those two players. It doesn't happen as frequently these days because their forwards aren't dominated as often as ours. When Wire were in our position, Briers went missing all the time.
Quote carl_spacklerBut he rarely only has just those 2 options. We're bad, but not quite that bad. He could throw a cut out pass to the winger, try taking the line on or drawing the defender before passing, or kick with a bit of purpose rather than a lot of hope. But he doesn't. '"
Taking the line on and drawing defenders only works if there are other attacking players in motion. All too often, there are not.
Quote carl_spacklerI've not panned Holdsworth. I've said that I think he should be better, but not that he's been poor (I don't think. If so, I retract going that far), and that in a direct comparison to Miller he doesn't seem to want to take charge as much, when as the supposed senior half I think he should. I haven't raved about Horne, either, just pointed out that he's been better as you've just agreed.'"
Didn't mean you personally necessarily, but I do think Holdsworth gets a rough ride on here and that the difference between his season overall and Horne's isn't as great as it's often made out to be. |
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| Quote carl_spackler="carl_spackler"That's not true. IIRC, he came back at the start of May, and he was very good by mid-May against Wire, Rovers, and Leeds, then again in July in the 2 cup games. It was mainly August he seemed to disappear, although he was half decent at Craven Park.
The difference was a fair bit the pack restricting him, but my issue is just how meekly he responds to that. He's supposed to be the senior playmaker at the club, and I'd just expect a half approaching 30 to take a bit more charge tbh. If he's not going to run with the ball and take the line on, and doesn't seem keen to take charge, what exactly does he see his role as, a specialist kicker?'"
For some reason I thought he got injured at Leeds. Never mind sack him! |
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| Quote deslawson="deslawson"Have to agree.'"
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| Quote east hull FC fan="east hull FC fan"A glowing endorsement, I'm sure.'"
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| Quote deslawson="deslawson"For me to agree with jake, he must be right.
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Miller has very good potential and I hope he realises it with us. Had no preseason and still adapting to a new club, country and league. Only 20 so will only get better.
Holdsworth I am a fan of but, second half of the season he has been really poor. Needs to stamp his authority on the side more and run the ball more often. He's too predictable at the moment. He needs a pack going forward of course but he needs to be more consistent and take control of the attack.
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| Quote PAUL M="PAUL M"Miller has very good potential and I hope he realises it with us. Had no preseason and still adapting to a new club, country and league. Only 20 so will only get better.
Holdsworth I am a fan of but, second half of the season he has been really poor. Needs to stamp his authority on the side more and run the ball more often. He's too predictable at the moment. He needs a pack going forward of course but he needs to be more consistent and take control of the attack.'"
Agree with that. Not had a great season injury wise though with the extended impact of head injury and the injury he traveled to France to get extra physio on in July. |
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| Quote PAUL M="PAUL M"Miller has very good potential and I hope he realises it with us. Had no preseason and still adapting to a new club, country and league. Only 20 so will only get better.
Holdsworth I am a fan of but, second half of the season he has been really poor. Needs to stamp his authority on the side more and run the ball more often. He's too predictable at the moment. He needs a pack going forward of course but he needs to be more consistent and take control of the attack.'"
Exactly what I'm trying to get at. Holdsworth's good when the game's going our way, but when it isn't he seems to do little to help try and change that, and in my opinion he should by one of those we can look to to do so. |
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| Quote Sheldon="Sheldon"For some reason I thought he got injured at Leeds. Never mind sack him!'"
Nah, it was a Meli special that did for him. |
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| Quote Rock God X="Rock God X"I'd say it is typically the case with those two players. It doesn't happen as frequently these days because their forwards aren't dominated as often as ours. When Wire were in our position, Briers went missing all the time.
Taking the line on and drawing defenders only works if there are other attacking players in motion. All too often, there are not.
Didn't mean you personally necessarily, but I do think Holdsworth gets a rough ride on here and that the difference between his season overall and Horne's isn't as great as it's often made out to be.'"
Look, we just don't agree about any of this so there's no point going back and forth. I don't agree those others also disappear in the same way as Holdsworth, I think you still see them trying to rally their teammates and tell them what they want. I don't agree there isn't a bit more Holdsworth can try. And I haven't said that I think Horne has been leagues ahead of Holdsworth, so I don't understand why you've brought that up with me. |
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hopefully we can see them both fire a bit more next year, on there day both can be very good, lets just hope there are afew more good days next year,
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| Quote hull2524="hull2524"hopefully we can see them both fire a bit more next year, on there day both can be very good, lets just hope there are afew more good days next year,'"
On their day is no longer enough. The new mantra is to be consistently good, which is quite right IMO. |
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