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| Quote downtheante="downtheante"Saddo, I mean Stato here:
Year, tackles, missed, percentage
2003,302,46,15%
2004,504,63,13%
2005,436,50,11%
2006,528,63,12%
2007,446,67,15%
2008,48,5,10%
2009,333,64,19%
=#BF4000Looks like JtP is right when he says he has not been the best defender (even though I thought he was) - it also looks like he had a worse year last year in defence.'"
Yup. I noticed that when I was looking through his stats a year or so ago. Quite surprising because it doesn't seem to chime with what you see, but Horne has always missed a fair percentage of tackles.
The jump last season was noticeable because it was so large I think. Definitely something to be concerned about if he can't address it, regardless of the root cause. | | |
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| Quote berrigans bitch="berrigans bitch"Well both not good, but Hall's is poor, =#BF4000maybe Hall never improved as much as people thought last season, interesting not too keen on stats apart from the ones associated with tackles, for me one of the biggest areas of the game is defence.'"
The problem with those stats is that it doesn't separate before and after his time at Widnes. I'd be willing to bet that the majority of those missed tackles occurred before his temporary exile. | | | |
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| Quote pmarrow="pmarrow"You wait till your next on CoD your gonna get owned.
For the record I don't get off on the fact we've carried Horne for seasons. He's gone down pan since 2004 long before the diabetes fiasco.'"
He played well for us during the cup run in 2005, and was instrumental in our winning run that got us to the GF in 2006, but in general terms I wouldn't disagree. The best game I can remember from him in a long while was the cup game away at Saints in 2004 when he completely outplayed Long and we were unlucky to lose. He's never dominated a game in that way since IMO. | | |
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Year,Games,Tries,Try Assists
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2007,13,7,4
2008,21,13,4
2009,14,10,3
Whiting
2007,15,4,4
2008,2,1,2
2009,18,5,3
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2007,24,5,2
2008,22,15,7
2009,21,9,4
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| Quote downtheante="downtheante"You've got me going now:
Year,Games,Tries,Try Assists
Hall
2007,13,7,4
2008,21,13,4
2009,14,10,3
Whiting
2007,15,4,4
2008,2,1,2
2009,18,5,3
Yeaman
2007,24,5,2
2008,22,15,7
2009,21,9,4
So Yeaman does pass to his winger occasionally - especially in 2008
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Yeamo, Yeamo, Yeamo  | | | |
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2008,21,13,4
2009,14,10,3
Whiting
2007,15,4,4
2008,2,1,2
2009,18,5,3
Yeaman
2007,24,5,2
2008,22,15,7
2009,21,9,4
So Yeaman does pass to his winger occasionally - especially in 2008
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Best get tackles up for all just so we are sure of our starting line | | |
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| Quote berrigans bitch="berrigans bitch"Best get tackles up for all just so we are sure of our starting line
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Not sure about that I think Tansey looks great at full back..It will be Yeamo & Whiting and Turner on the bench. | | | |
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Sorry - I was joking. 
I think it will be Yeaman and Whiting. If Hall gets it instead of Whiting that will be fine. I would be surprised if Turner gets in but, again, not too disappointed if he does. I think we really have a dilemma of the best kind. I just hope injuries don't take the choices away though. | | |
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| Quote downtheante="downtheante"Sorry - I was joking.
I think it will be Yeaman and Whiting. If Hall gets it instead of Whiting that will be fine. I would be surprised if Turner gets in but, again, not too disappointed if he does. I think we really have a dilemma of the best kind. I just hope injuries don't take the choices away though.'"
My sentiments exactly, fantastic situation to be in. | | |
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But, as always, the stats barely scratch the surface, providing neither reasoning nor context. Along with, of course, not providing any definition of what constitutes a tackle or a miss. | | | |
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| Quote downtheante="downtheante"Sorry - I was joking.
I think it will be Yeaman and Whiting. If Hall gets it instead of Whiting that will be fine. I would be surprised if Turner gets in but, again, not too disappointed if he does. I think we really have a dilemma of the best kind. I just hope injuries don't take the choices away though.'"
Exactly its good that we currently have a choice with selections and to be honest I dont think anyone could complain whoever makes the centres out of Yeaman, Whiting, Hall & Turner. | | | |
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