Ok, sorry. Meant that I've not seen anything to change my mind!! My opinion is that he's distinctly average, overrated and over hyped and at 28 is not likely to get a great deal better. That said he's probably the best that we will attract!!

Wembley was nothing to do with halfbacks, dummy runners, creativity etc, we simply dropped the ball too much and it cost us the game.

Wigan dropped the ball nearly as much as us, just they did it better than us too

Correct but our inability to score points or attack effectively ALL SEASON is to do with halfbacks etc.. That great defence can only hold out so long. Fact is Wigan could've scored a lot more with the chances they had but bombed.. We never looked like scoring (barring Shaul's break) and caused Wigan no trouble at all..

Trouble is we dropped it on the first and second tackle.

I'm talking specifically about Wembley. We didn't look like scoring as we constantly dropped the ball in Wigan's half.

Plus Wigan dropped it under pressure in the collision. We just dropped it cold.

Spot on Robbo that's what I said.

Most of our errors on Saturday were unforced. Neither half back played well but they didn't really get a chance to. I think we just bottled it

Having seen Miller a few times now, I don't think he is up to super league consistently. His timing of passing and picking the correct pass is really poor.

Most of our errors were certainly unforced - we were looked like we were bricking it when passing it along the line.

I disagree. He is a young kid with no pre season with these players. He showed against Widnes that he has the variety in his game to be a good number 7 for us. But, he is struggling with boring attack where we just seem to go side to side very slowly, when he attacks the line he does look good