By and large - yes.



Particularly by Agar, who was the main target of my comment.





I was purely referring to Agar scapegoating him, and I disagree about the need to sub him.

maybe everyone on this forum for a fortnight should use your avatar to get a point across

I don't see that as him being out of his depth I see it as a young kid making his pro debut who isn't the finished article. The way people are going on you would think he was left crying his eyes out as the bigger boys kept trampling all over him. I thought he was fine in terms of the physicality of the game but obviously still has a lot to learn.

how to catch a ball would be a good place to start for him!!

He dropped a bomb but then I guess no other winger has ever done that.

IMO it was wrong to play him, he needs to be blooded at some stage but don't think he was ready and it showed at times. I have big hopes for the kid and tonight has not changed that but Agar should have gone with experience and picked Hall.

But if Agar came out publically and commented about Briscoe's shortcomings then he would get slagged off for making Briscoe a scapegoat! We don't know what he says to him in training.



However he is not developing as he should imo and a new coach would benefit him I reckon.

Hall should be playing at centre. As a winger he has generally been poor. What I dont understand is why Tuffour is here? He clearly isn't even first choice wing cover despite the fact we only have one specialist winger in the senior squad.

Main positive tonight for me is that I'm in New York (with free wi-fi

) and missed the game altogether.

It's one to wipe from the Sky + Mrs.

Thought the young lad did not do too bad for his first SL appearance, he showed some signs bagged his first try..he needs to work on his defence, he will have learnt it is a massive step, the mere strength of the hits and pace of the game...He will learn loads from his experience he is still young and will turn out to be a great player in a few years time.

Frankly I have to say that looking a what is coming up this was a must win for me, it was a big game in the bigger scheme of things and Reece should never have played, Whiting on wing and Hall at centre or vice versa for me. Poor, poor decision by our coach. Plus he seems to lack the ability to get the team in the right frame of mind in these games in which the players are not motivated by the occassion or opposition. Reece did Ok but his side was targetted and it could well knock his confidence.



In answer to the the thread title ....Moa! Everyone else on and off the field to a greater and lesser extent should have a long hard look at themselves I think.



Four diifficult games coming up and we could have been facing them in joint top position but for our inability to turn up in the same frame of mind for all games! Its not all the coaches fault but its not all the players faults either.