I can't disagree. I like Shaul, he has a lot of good qualities. 15-20 years ago he would have been one of the best full backs in the world. But the modern FB needs to be another pivot, and he doesn't have the skill set to be really top class.



But as you allude to, Shaul is only a very small part of our issues. I just don't have any confidence in Radford's coaching ability.

Sao, Brown and Bienek?



Even if the 2nd rowers mentioned could do a decent job in Ellis, Savelio and Fash at prop.



I doubt see a prop as a problem, I have bigger concerns that props

Have watched all matches Sao played for NZ Warriors in the NRL and he played at prop so no idea what he is like as a loose forward.

I can see sao playing prop and jones at 13. He's the type of player radford likes at LF

Well what travesty that would be

Agreed, out of the three I'd play Savelio there.



Have Ma'u, Jones and Griffin rotating out wide.

I don't see an issue with props at all. It's only the general downbeat feeling because of our form that suddenly players like Bowden, Matongo, Fash and Brown aren't deemed decent cover. I think all those 4 would find another SL team if they left us.

I sort of agree, but we are assuming Sao and Tevita will cut the mustard playing week in, week out in super league, they are in effect replacing Mickey P and Greeny, partnering Tag and Bowden. And as far as I know, regardless of all the expectations, they are not proven yet, don’t mean to be negative, just realistic.



I like Massi and the prospect Jack Brown, but another quality prop along the lines of Amor or Ikihifo, or the French lad at Wigan, who I presume will be surplus to requirements when Burgess arrives, would allow us more room to manoeuvre, if and when injuries strike.

I don't think Navarette is fit to lace Bowden's boots, and although Amor's ok - he's only average. I agree with you about Sao and Satae, the odds are that one of them will flourish, and one will disappoint. I personally much prefer younger fringe NRL players to veteran first teamers though.

I meant as back up, no probs with Josh.

Back up should be the likes of Masi and Brown, it's a salary cap sport, that's what Leeds and Saints do, look at the Wigan youngsters who have been given a chance recently.

I agree if they are good enough, the point was regarding an opinion we are a quality prop short, which we are.