The fact that you have used a defeat against Bradford automatically =lack of effort and commitment.

If you accept that Hull were a better, stronger, more skilful team than Bradford, doesn't the fact that Bradford won suggest they played with more effort and commitment than Hull?

So every time Hull beat a team considered by you better than us,ie. leeds,its because the opposition haven't put any effort in.

On paper we had no chance in the semi v Warrington but in your view we won because we put more effort in,a very simple view of sport IMO.

I think there's tendency, especially for fans of middling teams (as ours have been in recent years), to see good results as demonstrating true potential and poor results as just due to lack of effort. Really they're both just outliers.



I also think there's sometimes a suggestion that commitment is just a switch in players heads they can flick on, if they could only be d. Extra effort, I suspect, drains the batteries. An extreme example being how teams often struggle after playing in the Cup final or other big game.

I hope the coaching staff , and players have a bit more ambition than most on here, otherwise we are in for an other awful season! Must be hard been motivated or motivating someone when your aiming to scrape in to 7th or 8th! If!!!!! Radford, which is a big if, can motivate this team week in , week out , and have them playing at that intensity that's plain to see from the stands (you'll know what I mean I think ha) then we should be match for anyone! Do that every week , and who knows, and an injury free season ha, if possible

For Hull (or Rovers) to break the top 6, would represent a great and surprising leap forward. Spending the full cap is not the same as extracting full value (or necessarily stretching it to the maximum).

I think that the argument that a lot of Hull's defeats in 2014 were by narrow margins is valid. If Sneyd and Pryce go well that'll make a big difference too. But still, to get ahead of more than say 2 of saints, wigan, leeds, wire, Hudds and (perhaps to a lesser degree) catalans would be a big turnaround in one season. That'd mean 5th. But other clubs could best case too. Powell might not be a one season wonder at Cas, and they could go well again. Koucash's investment might start to pay off at Salford. Widnes have been building in an understated way and made the play-offs. If our team gels and we make another signing or two, we've a shot at top 8.

As a best case 7/8th is maybe a tad pessimistic, as a par score it looks about right.

If both teams play to their full potential the "better" team should always beat the "lesser" team but often doesn't. The explanation for this is often that the better team is playing below its potential and the lesser team is playing above itself.



I think we did beat Warrington because we played like we wanted it more than they did. Why do you think we won?



What is your explanation for the defeat to Bradford?

We just need a good start and then who knows were we might finish momentum is great when its in full swing let's live in hope eh

Hull to finish 5th.

Leeds not to make the top 8!



Book mark this it's going to happen!

Hope your right but can't see it.

Pint of what your drinking please.

OK Lee I'll hold you to that