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| Quote Sebasteeno="Sebasteeno"He still coached Bradford to SL and WCC success, his bosses cheated the salary cap then the next year he got Wigan into the play offs then went to Crusaders who didnt have a team a week before the season started and got them in the play offs. Compare that to Gentles coaching career. Hmmmmm'"
Put another manager in place who has half a clue about football and I am sure when Ferguson retires Man Utd will maintain their position with the resources they have.
Noble took Bradford to the GF and won it, with the best team around at the time. A team which he had not put together. Some of his signings were questionable to say the least.
At Wigan in 2006 he has 225k of extra cap to play with, a distinct advantage. In 2007 he got to wigan to 6th (same as gentle last season) where one player (Trent Barrett) dragged them passed an injury ravaged Hull.
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| Quote garycottingham="garycottingham"Why,salford now seem to have a blank cheque.Do hull.?'"
Posturing in the media about contracted players is one thing, actually signing anyone and remaining within the cap is quite another. We'll see how the "Salford Spring" goes. |
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| Quote Sebasteeno="Sebasteeno"No my championing of Noble is because after years of promoting assistants beyond their ability a coach with a proven track record was needed at our club but instead we went for the unknown quantity again and we are now still stagnating as we have done for years. As another poster has said Gentle is the Ausiie Paul Cullen, talks a great game but cant deliver'"
Gentle has had less than 1 and a third seasons. In that one season he got to the second stages of the play off.
Tell me, with the resources available to him, what were you expecting at this stage? |
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| Quote Mild mannered Janitor="Mild mannered Janitor"Gentle has had less than 1 and a third seasons. In that one season he got to the second stages of the play off.
Tell me, with the resources available to him, what were you expecting at this stage?'"
I don't think Sebasteeno has been the only one querying PG's progress. I think many have had high expectations when the word all along has been that it will take more than one season to get things in place. We made progress last year and I think, despite our poor start, that we will improve further before this season is over. |
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| Quote Sebasteeno="Sebasteeno"No my championing of Noble is because after years of promoting assistants beyond their ability a coach with a proven track record was needed at our club but instead we went for the unknown quantity again and we are now still stagnating as we have done for years.'"
Yeah - you'd never get a top side promoting an unproven assistant.
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| Quote Kosh="Kosh"Yeah - you'd never get a top side promoting an unproven assistant.
Oh - hang on a minute...'"
Haven't we had this conversation before. Names like Anderson, Wayne, Cummins seem to strike a chord with me. But perhaps I'm just inventing these assistant coaches who've been appointed elsewhere. It surely wouldn't happen at Hull. |
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| Quote Kosh="Kosh"Yeah - you'd never get a top side promoting an unproven assistant.
Oh - hang on a minute...'"
Like Stephen Kearney,Brad Fittler,Royce Simmons and Richard Agar. |
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| Quote weaver93="weaver93"Like Stephen Kearney,Brad Fittler,Royce Simmons and Richard Agar.'"
Or Shaun Wane, Francis Cummins, Brian Noble, etc. Brian McDermott's only previous gig was his disastrous time at London.
The fact is that every head coach was promoted from assistant at some point, and many of them made a success of it. Even top sides will take a chance if the candidate impresses them. Promoting an assistant isn't an automatic recipe for disaster as some seem to be claiming. |
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| Quote Kosh="Kosh"Or Shaun Wane, Francis Cummins, Brian Noble, etc. Brian McDermott's only previous gig was his disastrous time at London.
The fact is that every head coach was promoted from assistant at some point, and many of them made a success of it. Even top sides will take a chance if the candidate impresses them. Promoting an assistant isn't an automatic recipe for disaster as some seem to be claiming.'"
Pretty much like it wasn't last season for us. |
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| Quote Kosh="Kosh"It now seems that Shaul and Niklas are injured. Doubt over Kent also?
Maybe his options were/are more limited than fans realise.'"
Possibly so if all of his alternatives are also injured. Be interested to know about Green, too. |
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| Quote Sebasteeno="Sebasteeno"No my championing of Noble is because after years of promoting assistants beyond their ability a coach with a proven track record was needed at our club but instead we went for the unknown quantity again and we are now still stagnating as we have done for years. As another poster has said Gentle is the Ausiie Paul Cullen, talks a great game but cant deliver'"
Massive irony in the fact that you're simultaneously deriding promoting assistant coaches and lauding Noble's achievements at Bradford. |
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