We hardly had any ball last night and virtually none of it was in good field position. Poor ball control and a lack of basic skills with ball in hand were what cost us. Up until we were playing panic rugby at the end we were only a score down despite ourselves so really could have won with some composure on the ball.



Stats show wire had 188 carries to our 140 which is a massive advantage and one of the key reasons they won.

I have no doubt that had we been knocked out of the CC before the final we'd have won the LLS and likely the GF but this group of players isn't experienced enough at winning finals to be able to get up for so many important games in quick succession plus adding in the euphoria of finally winning at wembley and it was a perfect storm against us finishing the season well.



It's not beyond the realms of possibility that we'll win next week but it's very unlikely given what we've seen in the last 4 weeks and the club needs to take stock and look to be even better next year.

Now we're in the mix of it,you have to credit leeds with last year's achievement. Trebles will become more rare imo. It's too hard



Last 6 to 8 rather than 4 weeks imo.

I'm well happy with where we are. One game from the GF and the CC in the cupboard.

Thompson isn't good enough in my opinion. Offered zilch and the line for his try against Wakefield shouldn't cover up for a pretty poor season from him. Develop matongo in the off season

Agree, not good enough, have better and cheaper options in reserves, i'd try and release him.

Plus we'd have signed carney if thompson didn't play for us

Thompson does not offer enough for me

i think this season he has not progressed at all

Don't think Tony was "having a dig" at FC. He was merely pointing out that on the night in our 17 we only had one overseas player. If all were fit then we would have fielded Dodds, Sandow & Gidley.

Cheers for that Brian.

Thompson has bot really had any regular game time so think unfair to say he hasn't 'developed', he's done well with the very limited chances he's had.



Radford had a couple of opportunities to make more changes in the forwards and didn't, and then we lost as those on the field were knackered and not having a rest into the following week.

Houghton has been immense but that first missed tackle with Ellis bearing in mind that was only 7 minutes in were the signs of players really frazzled, Houghton barely turned around to chase back.Asking him to play 80 every single game with no back-up/respite is still a very risky decision despite how things have turned out.

Some of the late interchanges are still puzzling, bringing on some players with just 20-25 mins left and not having being used in the first half doesn't make sense to me.



Going on the lash after the CC, wrong decision, celebrate AFTER the season finishes. Yes we had an extremely hard run, yes the whole wembley thing is draining but we did have chances to win the saints game and indeed the Wigan game.

Is that hyper critical, if you like but if you want to win everything some decisions effect those chances and changing/addressing those decisions for the the future might bring us more rewards.

Dismissing that outright on the back of winning the CC is a bit shortsighted.

Will not winning/getting through to the GF be a disappointment, at this stage of the season. ..yes.