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| Quote barham red="barham red"I do actually and you've just said punching a woman in the face is better than kicking a prone man, to even think of comparing two bads is nonsensical'"
What a ing tool you are, he nearly killed a man FFS.
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| Quote davey37="davey37"You invited Cockayne back for the end of season lap of honour so you could all applaud him like some hero
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No I didn't
Quote davey37="davey37"Now you want to re-sign him
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No I don't
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| Quote Bal="Bal"We likely couldn't sack him anyway. He would have a case for a contractual breach. It didn't happen while he was doing his job.'"
That excuse is never going to fly
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| Quote cod'ead="cod'ead"That excuse is never going to fly'"
Employment tribunals wouldn't give a monkeys unless it meant he was unable to do his job or if it can be proved he was unsuitable to do his job, likely under break of trust and confidence. Something which is next to impossible to prove and in a court that usually sides with employees over employers.
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| Quote fc baldy="fc baldy"Should be sacked....no questions asked.Sooner go with Shaul on Wing and play Horne at F/B for wembley if Lineham not fit.'"
This ^^^^^^
We don't know all the ins and outs, but glossing over it as AP has done is convenient apologism, given Lineham's injury.
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| Quote east hull FC fan="east hull FC fan"What a loving tool you are, he nearly killed a man FFS.'"
Only one tool here mate, seems that in your view because there are 'worse' crimes that were punished at the time by a club (and for me he should have been sacked) then a 15st rugby player punching a girl in the face (trust me that could end up with more than a black eye) and the club doing nothing but defend him seems almost ok!!!
It takes a certain sort of 'man' to ever contemplate hitting a woman in the face, his mum must be so proud.
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| Quote Bal="Bal"Employment tribunals wouldn't give a monkeys unless it meant he was unable to do his job or if it can be proved he was unsuitable to do his job, likely under break of trust and confidence. Something which is next to impossible to prove and in a court that usually sides with employees over employers.'"
There are literally thousands of previous cases of someone being fired for breaking the law in their personal lives. This is no different.
Crookes stated in court that he was a role model to thousands, I'd contend that lamping a woman is hardly the actions of anyone I'd want as a role model or ambassador to our club
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| Quote barham red="barham red"Only one tool here mate, seems that in your view because there are 'worse' crimes that were punished at the time by a club (and for me he should have been sacked) then a 15st rugby player punching a girl in the face (trust me that could end up with more than a black eye) and the club doing nothing but defend him seems almost ok!!!
It takes a certain sort of 'man' to ever contemplate hitting a woman in the face, his mum must be so proud.'"
Where did I say it was ok? I didn't, and stop being an idiot. Hitting a woman is a cowardly thing to do, but to say it's on a level with what Cockayne did is laughable. I couldn't give two s what your personal view is, it was your clubs decision to back him that is far worse than what FC are doing with JC.
Rovers fans have no right to pass judgement on FC for this, as soon as you idiots comprehend that, the better.
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| Hull KR punished Cockayne for his incident as did the courts. Hull FC haven't been seen to punish JC instead they have come out and said his punishment from the courts was harsh. Whether a club stands by a player is up to them and whether what BC did was worse than what JC did is not the issue, but to be seen to condone JC's actions by publicly calling his conviction harsh is deplorable. If there are circumstances known to the club but not to us, then the club need to make a proper statement over this, otherwise they are inferring that violence to women is ok.
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| Quote LifeLongHKRFan="LifeLongHKRFan"Hull KR punished Cockayne for his incident as did the courts. Hull FC haven't been seen to punish JC instead they have come out and said his punishment from the courts was harsh. Whether a club stands by a player is up to them and whether what BC did was worse than what JC did is not the issue, but to be seen to condone JC's actions by publicly calling his conviction harsh is deplorable. If there are circumstances known to the club but not to us, then the club need to make a proper statement over this, [uotherwise they are inferring that violence to women is ok[/u.'"
That's a pretty big leap to make tbh.
I think AP may come to regret what he said (based on what has been reported) but it's not up to the club to make any further statement until they want to or are ready to. Crookes is an idiot, and I suspect he knows it, and I would prefer it (on the basis of what we know) that we got rid, but the club know more than we do, so I'm relaxed with their silence on the issue at this stage.
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| Quote Chris28="Chris28"That's a pretty big leap to make tbh.
I think AP may come to regret what he said (based on what has been reported) but it's not up to the club to make any further statement until they want to or are ready to. Crookes is an idiot, and I suspect he knows it, and I would prefer it (on the basis of what we know) that we got rid, but the club know more than we do, so I'm relaxed with their silence on the issue at this stage.'"
The club would have been better in not making any sort of statement rather than what they did say. What they did say doesn't really cover them in glory and does more harm than good.
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| Quote Scadge1="Scadge1"Playing devils advocate a bit...don't people deserve a second chance after a first offence? The whole story seems a little strange in the paper and AP's comments dont seem to make much sense given a fairly lenient sentence for assault.'"
That was my argument regarding Cockayne, you shouldn't take someone's livelihood away because of a stupid mistake. The problem is in several cases like Cockaynes and Raynors you give them a second chance and they throw it back in your face. I'm not saying Crookes should or shouldn't be sacked, just don't be surprised if he is kept on, if you're not having a similar thread in a few months time, some of these players as Bet said earlier, don't appreciate how lucky they are to be in such a position.
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