|
 |
Rank | Posts | Team |
International Board Member | 26055 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Mar 2003 | 22 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Mar 2025 | Feb 2025 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Thought the holding down was ok, just, Taylor should have passed it straight onto Watts, only Penny in his way.
Backing up is poor again (could be fatigue) number of times players promoted the ball and no one there, Mini went mad at one point.
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Player Coach | 8640 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Jul 2006 | 19 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Mar 2025 | Feb 2025 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote Dave K.="Dave K."Thought the holding down was ok, just, Taylor should have passed it straight onto Watts, only Penny in his way.
Backing up is poor again (could be fatigue) number of times players promoted the ball and no one there, Mini went mad at one point.'"
There is only shaul in the team with any pace, so if he makes a break nobody is going to be near him
|
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Club Owner | 7735 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Feb 2004 | 21 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Mar 2025 | May 2022 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote Dave K.="Dave K."Thought the holding down was ok, just, Taylor should have passed it straight onto Watts, only Penny in his way.
Backing up is poor again (could be fatigue) number of times players promoted the ball and no one there, Mini went mad at one point.'"
The holding down on e Shaul break was not ok. Taylor won the collision, he was facing their line. Lineham was all over him (4 seconds) . Penalty later in the game for holding was given for just a 2 second delay. Wrong decision which should have resulted in a yellow card.
A decision which confused me was the penalty against mini for a pass off the floor. In the current game after a tackle is deemed complete if the ball carrier doesn't play the ball the ref call for the ball to be played at the spot of the tackle and not a penalty. Minis ball carrying arm touched the ground, fair enough. But why not instruct the player to play the ball?
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
International Chairman | 5392 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Dec 2001 | 23 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Jan 1970 | Jun 2022 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| 'high tackle' by michaels which was patently not was another of his mistakes. timing of poor decions by officials very much had a bearing on the outcome despite us being pants
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Moderator | 36786 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Jul 2003 | 22 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Jan 2025 | May 2023 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
Moderator
|
| Quote Jake the Peg="Jake the Peg"Thaler had a better game than most of our players.'"
That's a pretty low bar to clear though.
He got a lot of big decisions wrong, and the majority went against us. Just because we were e doesn't excuse the officials for being terrible.
|
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Player Coach | 4932 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Oct 2006 | 18 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Mar 2025 | Feb 2025 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Well if he gets appointed to the Wigan game, this forum will go into meltdown AND RIGHTLY SO.
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Player Coach | 3092 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Feb 2006 | 19 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Mar 2023 | Feb 2023 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote Mild mannered Janitor="Mild mannered Janitor"
A decision which confused me was the penalty against mini for a pass off the floor. In the current game after a tackle is deemed complete if the ball carrier doesn't play the ball the ref call for the ball to be played at the spot of the tackle and not a penalty. Minis ball carrying arm touched the ground, fair enough. But why not instruct the player to play the ball?'"
That's for when the referee calls held and the player doesn't hear it or if the pass is at the same time as the call. When a player passes after he knowingly ends the tackle by his ball carrying arm hitting the ground it is a penalty.
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Player Coach | 30589 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Mar 2007 | 18 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Mar 2025 | Feb 2025 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote The Ghost of '99="The Ghost of '99"That's for when the referee calls held and the player doesn't hear it or if the pass is at the same time as the call. When a player passes after he knowingly ends the tackle by his ball carrying arm hitting the ground it is a penalty.'"
It is the rule but it's stupid that in one instance you get penalised and in the other you get to play the ball and the only difference is taht the ref hasn't shouted held. The rules should be the same for both
|
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Club Coach | 1295 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Oct 2004 | 20 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Jun 2019 | Jan 2019 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| I disagree with some of the chat about Russell dragging his heels getting back onside. That particular play was all but in line with where I was sat in the west stand. I think he knew exactly where he was on the pitch and what he was doing !! With the momentum we had at that point in the game, I think it was definitely a professional foul. And should have been dealt with as such.
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
International Star | 22099 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Aug 2011 | 14 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Mar 2025 | Feb 2025 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| How come you never blame the ref when you win?
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Club Coach | 5921 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Aug 2005 | 20 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Feb 2025 | Feb 2025 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote Cokey="Cokey"How come you never blame the ref when you win?'"
Read the opening post dopey and you'll see im not blaming the ref for us losing - just questioning some of his poor decisions
|
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
International Star | 22099 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Aug 2011 | 14 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Mar 2025 | Feb 2025 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote Sebasteeno="Sebasteeno"Read the opening post dopey and you'll see im not blaming the ref for us losing - just questioning some of his poor decisions'"
OK thicko, why do you seem to question the refs decisions when you lose? Do you usually have a thread on the ref when you win? NO, Get over it.
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Club Owner | 17898 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Oct 2003 | 21 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Mar 2020 | Aug 2019 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| For me there were a few errors but as others have said, our play was our downfall, not the reffing team.
1. The third chuckle brother running the line should have seen the forward pass for their try
2. The laying on was no different to Talanoa against Wakey. Should have been a penalty and 10 minutes (for consistency)
3. The other TJ saw the foul play (Watts shoulder) yet didn't think it significant to call until the Wire play broke down shortly after. If its foul play it should be called straight away. Advantage is the refs call not the TJs.
No problem with the rest of it or the result. We made too many mistakes and didn't play smart when we had the ball.
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Moderator | 8357 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Jan 2004 | 21 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Mar 2025 | Feb 2025 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
Moderator
|
| Quote Chris28="Chris28"For me there were a few errors but as others have said, our play was our downfall, not the reffing team.
1. The third chuckle brother running the line should have seen the forward pass for their try
'"
Not forgetting he should also have seen the ball before it hit his, proves how observant these guys are......not!
For me the standard of officiating has slowly got worse and to be honest when you have someone like Ganson as the Ref in Chief should we really expect anything different.
Unfortunately there are a few ref's that act as though they are the focal point of the sport and this shows in perfomances. Listening to Cummins on Sky even he still defends the ref's to the point of blind loyalty even when its clear the officials have made a bad mistake.
Yes mistakes happen but its not so much the mistakes that are the issue its the fundemental lack of consistency across the board in the officiating.
The rule of Try/No Try should be removed as its just makes the game a complete joke, I'm all for technology helping but the over reliance on it by the ref's is SL is embarrasing and they should back their own judgement instead of bottling decisions and refering a large number to the screen.
|
|
|
 |
|