Not heard that one before, well, maybe a hundred times or so.

Me neither I thought Griffin was a handful for Wakey and has been consistent of late and performed well. Was surprised Radford didn't take Kelly off for a spell in the first half and put Connor in to be honest as he just wasn't in the game at all and couldn't keep hold of the ball.

Kelly imo had his worst game for hull, but the kid has been great for us and every player has one of those days, the other thing with Kelly he could have a mare for 79 min then go the full length for the match winning try, wondering if he had the same bug manu had?

Agree with you as think Kelly has been fantastic most of this season and last night was probably just one of those 'bad day at the office' performances. Think both Kelly & Sneyd had poor games compared to their usual standards but after the past few weeks not surprising they have an off night just both on the same night was inconvenient of the the pair of them

. Just thought with Connor on the bench Radford may have just taken Kelly off for a period in the first half to give him a break.

Frank's stats tell a different story.



We certainly didn't get enough minutes out of him, but the yardage he'd achieve in his stints off the bench was valuable & hasn't fully been replaced.

when I saw him play rovers in his first match I was drooling at what a beast he was,but for me apart from one or two games he just didn't make enough impact, Wembley to me was typical frank, one good run then nothing, big disappointment for me, but everyone sees things different,

Always look a better and more creative team when Connor is on but I thought Fash and Bowden did well last night myself! As for Frank in the first couple of games he played wide out almost in the centre channel on the left were he looked unplayable, releasing slip passes and running at the centre and winger after that he was channelled more into the centre and for me lost his impact.

thought Bowden and watts where immense, really like the way Bowden is playing, as for fash my main concern is that for a prop he just doesn't look big enough, he tackles above his weight but never really bends the line, saying that a good bloke to have round the squad,

Let's not be too harsh.



This squad has just retained the Cup at Wembley and are three wins from being the best team in the Northern Hemisphere and then we'd have a crack at the World Club Championship (if it's on next Feb?).



Yes, we can always improve, but we work very well with the squad we've assembled and our game management is now at a different level to any time I can remember.



Also impact isn't just about strength, it's also about having someone who can kick goals for fun, kick a match winning drop goal, a 40-20, create a try with a break, catch a high ball to score a try, defend our line and not panic with 15 minutes to go throwing out silly passes.



All of the above have been a standard within our play over the past two seasons and I trust Radders and his team to make sure all 17 places are filled appropriately next season.

I thought Bowden was superb again last night. He's become very difficult to bring down and always seems to steal more metres in the tackle.



Think he's really starting to mature into the role and alongside Watts and Taylor our props are something to be feared

I agree. Bowden has been a great impact player this season and makes a lot of yards when he comes off the bench.

Sometimes what you look for in a game and an opinion you form isn't quite the reality.



Last year his average meter gain was second in the forwards behind only Scott Taylor, his number of carries were the 5th highest forward (more than Mini & Ellis), total meters 4th highest forward.