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| Quote Kosh="Kosh"Are you for real? That's never a red card in a million years.'"
Maybe, maybe not. You make contact with the head in that way, especially considering the injuries, malicious or not, accidental or not, your risking a sending off.
We can debate until the cows come in, but I suspect the disciplinary panel will be having a say on it.
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| What's with all these chairmen whinging on social media lately? It's embarrassing.
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| dipped his head into the tackle, nowt wrong with it,
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| Quote Bal="Bal"Maybe, maybe not. You make contact with the head in that way, especially considering the injuries, malicious or not, accidental or not, your risking a sending off.
We can debate until the cows come in, but I suspect the disciplinary panel will be having a say on it.'"
You might be [irisking[/i a red, because reffing in SL is pretty random. But you said that it [iprobably should[/i have been a red. Different thing altogether.
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| Quote Kosh="Kosh"Not me. But then I can tell the difference between a deliberate high shot and accidental contact.'"
Not sure how accidental it is tbh, if you watch Ellis he's looking at Simon all the way into it. Ellis track record shows he's no thug, but he's copped him sweet there.
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| Quote TrinityIHC="TrinityIHC"Not sure how accidental it is tbh, if you watch Ellis he's looking at Simon all the way into it. Ellis track record shows he's no thug, but he's copped him sweet there.'"
He's looking at Simon because he intends to tackle him and stifle the potential offload. Making contact with his head is, IMO, accidental.
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| He'll get a game. N probably should. Arm swings from far back into man's head. Man goes off with nose spread about face. Not a great deal of argument imo
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| Quote Kosh="Kosh"You might be [irisking[/i a red, because reffing in SL is pretty random. But you said that it [iprobably should[/i have been a red. Different thing altogether.'"
I think he probably should have been sent from the field, yes. It's careless contact with the head from a strike, which is a red card offence. I think he will get Grade B, and get 2 matches, if he'd have been sent off Grade B, 1 match. Just my opinion.
The worst case scenario is that the disciplinary committee class it as reckless and upgrade to C, which is 3 matches, but I don't think you can class that as reckless.
Of course, we haven't seen the other challenge which is suppose to be as bad, if not worst.
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| Quote Kosh="Kosh"Not me. But then I can tell the difference between a deliberate high shot and accidental contact.'"
Well aren't you a clever boy then.
No one but Ellis knows his intention but you certainly don't try to stiffle an off load with a straight arm. Unfortunately it's a facet I've seen creeping into Ellis's game as he tries to exert maximun force into collision.
And just because fans of Hull or Wakefield disagree with you (yes people don't have to agree to the world according to kosh you know)
Doesn't make their opinion any less valid then yours or wrong.
Try dealing with that instead of being condescending or insulting.
Just something else for you to consider.
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| Quote TrinityIHC="TrinityIHC"Not sure how accidental it is tbh, if you watch Ellis he's looking at Simon all the way into it. Ellis track record shows he's no thug, but he's copped him sweet there.'"
I would be really worried if Ellis wasn't looking at Simon when he was trying to tackle him.
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| Quote ComeOnYouUll="ComeOnYouUll"What's with all these chairmen whinging on social media lately? It's embarrassing.'"
Takes unprofessional behaviour to a whole new level.
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| A few things to consider.
1) The video has being shown to make Ellis look as bad as possible. At real speed I doubt it looks as bad as the video as it will show it is near impossible for Ellis to pull out.
2) Simon falls into Ellis's arm, it was aimed at the chest this means contact was accidental and not reckless.
3) Despite this, it is Ellis responsibilty going into the tackle to make sure he does not make contact with the head, he is unfortunate and unlucky to make contact but the reality is he has.
4) Michael Carter is being a cry baby and obviousley using this situation as an attempt to have a dig at the rfl. The whole everyones against us thing is rather precious and makes him look stupid, his players wont have being angels every tackle this season.
All that said Ellis has a good record and a EGP and a one match ban is a fair result.
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