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| I think it's a decent idea, games need to be meaningeful and closer. Also we need the crowds top go up again and give the likes of Fev, Fax and Leigh a chance too. the current system is killing the game IMO.
Just say the top league after 11 games is Wigan, Leeds, Wire, Hudds, Bradford, Saints, Catalans and Hull. 2nd tier could be KR, Salford, Castleford, Wakefield, London, Widnes, Fax and Fev. More competative plus closer games. It makes the first eleven games all to play for too.
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| Quote Mild Rover="Mild Rover"Next season the bottom 2 in SL and top 10 in the Championship would be put together to form SL 2 in 2015.
In 2015, the 12 remaining SL1 teams play each other once. 11 games, presumably including a magic fixture.
Same for sl2. Then, mid-season, top 8 in SL2 breakaway to compete for the title - home and away, 14 more games. The bottom 4 from that division and the top 4 from sl2 form the intermediateship, an extended P&R play-off tournament for 4 places in the 2016 sl1 and the bottom 8 sl2 play for... pride, and that.'"
thanks for explaining, it's actually worse than I thought!
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| This sounds stupid.
Have a few issues with it, hows the sky money going to be split, hows it going to effect attendances and recruitment of players for clubs...
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| It's a bollox idea without a single redeeming feature. Whoever came up with it should be sacked and immediately sectioned for their own good.
Wasn't aware that it had even been put to the clubs, let alone voted on though.
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| Quote Kosh="Kosh"It's a bollox idea without a single redeeming feature. Whoever came up with it should be sacked and immediately sectioned for their own good.
Wasn't aware that it had even been put to the clubs, let alone voted on though.'"
Considering the money problems some clubs are having can't see many clubs wanting to vote for this..
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| Pretty difficult to blame the RFL solely, four structures were put to the clubs, the clubs have voted and this is the one that they want.
Anybody come up with a better proposal? No point saying 12 teams and P + R because that was and why it needed changing in the first instance.
There's too many one sided games for RL to be credible, this should sort that issue.
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| Quote Jake the Peg="Jake the Peg"So I buy a season pass expecting to be playing wire, leeds, saints and wigan 3 times but end up playing them once along with fev, fax and Sheffield a couple of times. Genius'"
I doubt the idiots who came up with this dog's breakfast of an idea even considered the potential impact on season ticket sales.
My preferred option is:
Keep things as they are and put the effort in to making what we've got work.
Stop blaming:
Lack of competitive games
Lack of P&R
Losing players to NRL or Union
Lack of talent coming through
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| Quote east hull FC fan="east hull FC fan"Pretty difficult to blame the RFL solely, four structures were put to the clubs, the clubs have voted and this is the one that they want. '"
They voted on it?
When did this happen?
Quote east hull FC fan="east hull FC fan"Anybody come up with a better proposal? No point saying 12 teams and P + R because that was poop and why it needed changing in the first instance.'"
It's about time the clubs realised that there's no magic bullet and THEY need to get off their ar[is[/ies and make what we've got work
Quote east hull FC fan="east hull FC fan"There's too many one sided games for RL to be credible, this should sort that issue.'"
No there aren't. In any season, under any format, you will always get the odd one-sided game, we're not seeing any more than we have done over the years
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| Two leagues of 10
Top 6 play off format.
9th & 10th place team in SL1 are relegated and replaced with top team of SL2 and winners of a playoff series between 2nd, 3rd & 4th teams in SL2.
Teams knocked out in the fourth round of the challenge cup compete in a new challenge shield competition, with the final played at one of KC, HJ, DW.
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| Like your idea East Hull FC fan alot more sense plus everyone has everything to play for. I'd like to see
SL1
Wigan, Leeds, Saints, FC, Catalans, Bradford, Saints, Huddersfield, KR and Widnes
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Wakefield, Cas, Fev, London, Salford, Leigh, Halifax, Sheffield, Toulouse and Cumbrian Merged team or Whitehaven.
Don't think the likes of York, Donny, Hunslet, Swinton, Workington or Barrow could substain a team at SL standard.
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| Quote east hull FC fan="east hull FC fan"Two leagues of 10 - =#FF0040Unlikely that 11 super league clubs would vote for it, without significant guaranteed redistribution of the Sky cash, and similarly 11 are unlikely to vote for that.
Top 6 play off format. - =#FF0040You'll get complaints that you can win it from the bottom half of the league then.
9th & 10th place team in SL1 are relegated and replaced with top team of SL2 and winners of a playoff series between 2nd, 3rd & 4th teams in SL2. - =#FF0040Without significant redistribution of sky money, again...
Teams knocked out in the fourth round of the challenge cup compete in a new challenge shield competition, with the final played at one of KC, HJ, DW.'"
I'm not picking on your suggestion particularly, it is just there are flaws in any system.
Franchising - Extends the current system giving us security but at the expense of immobility. Gives the 'Rugby League Family' the Romanovs treatment, consigning those outside of SL to dual-registration dependence or a limbo of hopelessness.
Simple P&R - Too big a gap between pro and semi-pro makes it destabilising for clubs going in both directions. Only way to quickly narrow the gap is to take from the rich and give to the poor - unlikely.
Re-election - all a bit political and behind closed doors.
Focussing resources on fewer teams, strengthening them - weakens others, and narrows the base.
Licensing effectively died with oldco Bradford, so something has to give one way or the other, and there is no easy solution. A bullet has to be bitten.
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| Quote Mild Rover="Mild Rover"I'm not picking on your suggestion particularly, it is just there are flaws in any system.
Franchising - Extends the current system giving us security but at the expense of immobility. Gives the 'Rugby League Family' the Romanovs treatment, consigning those outside of SL to dual-registration dependence or a limbo of hopelessness.
Simple P&R - Too big a gap between pro and semi-pro makes it destabilising for clubs going in both directions. Only way to quickly narrow the gap is to take from the rich and give to the poor - unlikely.
Re-election - all a bit political and behind closed doors.
Focussing resources on fewer teams, strengthening them - weakens others, and narrows the base.
Licensing effectively died with oldco Bradford, so something has to give one way or the other, and there is no easy solution. A bullet has to be bitten.'"
Maybe we have to think about two regional leagues? Yorkshire & Lancashire, with London & Catalan joining either.
Top 4 from each progress to a finals series. Problem there is you have a lot of uncompetitive games.
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