i'd say thats more of a social change. every fans love biff and thats one of the main reasons as to why state of origin has become the most watched rugby game.



id hate to see league go down the same road as union where they have a few words after jumping on each other then have a little push and act the big man afterwards.

Of course he was LMS was on the outside which is the correct position for a team that has the head (Hense the term) Hock decided that he was going to be clever and LMS wasn't having any of it.

If you look again have a look at how the rest of the scrum is formed and it is clear that Hock's head position should have been inside the head of LMS.

You say it doesn't matter but I beg to differ like I said if he had tried that he would have been on his backside no matter how big he is.

ok please tell me as to why it matters? and anyhow if lms didn't like it all he had to do was stand up tell the ref and hock would of been told to pack properly. but lms didnt do that he tried to man handle hock and hock wasn't having any of it and it turned into some love taps nothing major.



hock's name is a massive part to why some fans are calling for him to be put down.

It matters to a front rower when someone tries to dominate you in the scrum Hock was trying to be clever and LMS wasn't having any of it.

I know you may not like that fact but there it is.



That has nothing to do with it being Gareth Hock BTW.

so you agree then lms started the set to because he wasn't happy with hock. in all honesty it really doesn't matter both teams split from the scrum soon as the ball passes the 2nd rowers feet its hardly as if hock was angling for a better position to push or strike for the ball.

Why try it at all scrums are crap anyway and goes in the 2nd row.

No Hock started it by trying to steal the head.

How many more times do you want me to say it?

Oh wait let me guess I have a agenda against Hock right?

Ask Gareth Hock.

no honestly i dont think you do, i actually think your abit old school and some reason think it actually matters where the heads go these days and it doesn't. lms tried to man handle hock and hock gets a bit angry and rubbed hes head into hes face then words was followed by a few love taps nothing major.



i dont think its anything to do with attempting to dominate at the scrum it really doesn't matter these days.

Rubbish.

Hock knew what he was doing.

You can deny it all you like.

It's the principal of what Hock tried to do, LMS wasn't having any of it. Fair play.

Magennis deserves more than a one game ban, but so do O'Loughlin and Mossop for throwing at Magennis while he's being held, cheap shot merchants. Mossop threw his punch and then ran away the big fairy.