Sorry but I thought finny was bloody garage and miller was nowhere ,tbf Luke gale ran the show

Spot on comment, have to agree 100%

We let mcshane run 10 yards every time from a ptb our second marker should be hitting him not stoud watching,we are so nieve in defence

miller was targeted,his defence was good for a small man.Powell got his team to run at him which took him out of the game.Miller and Gibson I thought were our best players out there regarding commitment.

What pees me off is we know Johnstone is suspect in defence but hope is attacking abilities will give a balance. How come he receives his 1st pass out on the wing in the 78th minute?

Also, Tupou and Lyne, who are both pretty lethargic managed to cover their side pretty effectively.

I'm not reading to much into it,, from what I observed, 3 of there tries looked in touch, silver wood was shocking, there line speed was good as always offside,

Our forwards matched them and worked hard, however our backs were torn to shreds, cas were fast and there backs look a unit that have had seasons together under there belt,

Kirkmond missed is man on numerous occasions

Finn will not play that bad again

Miller needs to pull his finger out,

And cas just like Fev found our weak wing and took advantage, Gibson and Johnson really left exposed on both games,

And agree with previous Luke gale ran the show always dangerous,

Lynne had one chance and took it, great finish,

I watched Warrington get hammered at the jungle 46-6 last year, it's horrible place to go, friendly or not,

No conclusions to be drawn till after weeks 1-3 of the SL

Why should the 2nd marker be hitting/tackling him?

I'm not writing Johnstone off at all. He is very good and in attack is outstanding.

But if he drops the ball under no pressure and let's tries down his wing he has to be questioned, whether he is one of our own kids or not.

Confidence should be built but it won't be built if people keep running past him.



If it's the slide on the defence I'd still like to see him make a tackle to force the mistake. Needs work but worth it.

If he drops the ball under no pressure then fair enough there's some individual coaching to do with Johnstone.



The second part of what you've said is the bit I have an issue with, he may or may not be a good defender, the truth is we don't know because he's constantly being let down by his inside defence and the issues they're having in working consistently to a system.

The important word about today's game is friendly, why worry it was a run out nothing more. At best they help with getting players match fit, the players know points are not at stake and looking at the attendance many of the supporters did.

If you look at the friendlies this season by all clubs, you would be worried if you are Hull KR and even Wigan and Saints have not exactly set the games alight. I doubt the latter two will be hitting the panic button.

We have just survived probably our worst season on record so let's just be happy we have another season to correct our errors. We will lose games all teams do, what matters is that we have progressed from last season and I believe we have so let's wait and see.

Friendlies dont mean much but I thought that today you really expected all your creativity to come from from Finn and that really wont work. Miller needs to get more involved and there needs to be more passing amongst the forwards.

The problem is that there is not a lot of time to sort it out, because if you get in to a losing habit, heads will go down and the bottom four will again be your fate.

The same excuse with Johnstones defence was used last year, and we had different centres. I think it is an easy cop out, he is good in attack, but woeful defensively.



I do agree though, I thought Finn was shocking, and to me it has highlighted the fact that he has spent most of his career in the championship. I think we need an extra half back, to add to the competition and fast.



I also think we need to change, the wingers, I do agree that Johnstone isnt yet ready to play week in week out, just like Jowitt

Howard surprised me today, he was one of a few who played well. I disagree that our pack matched theirs we struggled to gain 10 meters where as they were achieving that easily. I think we missed Anderson and Simon (who is yet to feature), their forwards seemed much quicker and bigger than ours and literally bullied us for most part of the game Grant Millington and Andy Lynch were outstanding and laid a platform for the rest of the team. Ashurst was solid and A Tupou showed glimpses of what we are to be expecting from him.

Regarding Johnstone, yes he is one of our own however if he is selected when we next face Castleford him and Gibson need to communicate more and prevent passes down their left edge, they need to be in Solamonas face because lets face it Cas have two wingers that are very quick, good under the highball and can finish in some ridiculous fashion as well as being strong. I dont think B Tupou is a in a million years, IMO Joe Arundal should be picked when we play them in 3 week as he is solid in defense and also capable of helping out our forwards coming out of our half with his carries.

My 17 in 3 week if all fit would be:



BJB

Johnstone

Walton (Solid and strong in defence)

Arundal

Lyne/B Tupou

Miller

Finn

Scruton

Howarth

England

Ashurst

Kirmond

Arona



Moore (Moores strength is his aggresiveness in defence)

Sio (covering 9, and all backrow positions)

Anderson

Simon (Cover to front and backrow at a push)



A few players in at 18 are versatile and IMO would be better defensively and match Castleford better.

I dont recall the incident where he dropped a ball under no pressure, in fact just the opposite . Cas put up high kicks to him and challenged in the air, attempting to catch the ball high above their heads. Its very difficult to defend against as all the pressure is on the defender as it does not matter if the attacker fumbles it.

Its a very good tactic and created the first two tries for Cas, first one against Johnstone and the second BJB. Ironic really as these two players are both very good at doing the same thing, yet we dont seem to contest attacking kicks prefering instead to just make the tackle.