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| Do season ticket sales count towards attendance regardless of attendances? I always thought they worked it out on turnstile clicks.
On the one hand, it would seem to make it a difficult job, because you would need to work out exactly how much of the cash received related to concessions, etc, as aren't some of the gates mixed?
Having said that, there did seem to be plenty of spaces and so I wasn't convinced the attendance was as high as they said, but it was still very healthy, particularly as it was a Saturday teatime Sky game on a cold day.
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| Yes they are all counted, which is fair enough as the ticket has been bought and paid for. I think this is the reason why people get confused with the crowd figures especialy at cup games. One week you are at a league match and a crowd of say 7000 is given out, next week you have a cup game and it looks like the same numbers in the ground and the crowd is announced at 3,500.
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| Quote Slugger McBatt="Slugger McBatt"Do season ticket sales count towards attendance regardless of attendances? I always thought they worked it out on turnstile clicks.
On the one hand, it would seem to make it a difficult job, because you would need to work out exactly how much of the cash received related to concessions, etc, as aren't some of the gates mixed?
Having said that, there did seem to be plenty of spaces and so I wasn't convinced the attendance was as high as they said, but it was still very healthy, particularly as it was a Saturday teatime Sky game on a cold day.'"
The crowd was certainly higher than I guessed on the night (8k) but its worth noting Belle Vue holds approx.11k so there was still space for another 1700 people, although i believe the safety certificate only permits 10k to be in the ground.
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| If you want to know the true attendance, ask someone from the nutjob forum - there's a whole thread dedicated to it, along with some 'expert' opinion on how we've been fiddling the figures for years.
Personally, it's become my first stop for WTW related news stories - they've got all the scoops.
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| Which forum is this thread on?
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| Cheers DA, looked all over but couldn't find the drivel!
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| OMG. Why would you go to that effort to think of a way to lie about attendances?
I particularly like the reason to justify inflating the attendance and not getting caught by the tax man was to reduce a big attendance later in the year!?!? Why on earth would you do that? You be quoting the same annual attendance, the tax would be the same but you've had to sit there flexing numbers up and down just to pee off the Cas fans forum.
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| Quote Khlav Kalash="Khlav Kalash"The crowd was certainly higher than I guessed on the night (8k) but its worth noting Belle Vue holds approx.11k so there was still space for another 1700 people, although i believe the safety certificate only permits 10k to be in the ground.'"
Yes it looked as full as I've seen it since probably Leeds last season, which seen as we were on Sky was a very good surprise.
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| has it appeared in Corronation st or eastenders yet?
in time it will.
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| I think people don't realise how many more are now in the north stand, having stood there for nearly 30 years, all around me in previous years there was plenty of room, but not any more. It is now packed regularly. Also on Saturday the west terrace looked as full as I have seen it for a while.
Add this to the hospitality boxes and your crowd is right up there.
Only real empty spaces I could see was in the east stand, which TBF Is never full.
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| I was in the West Stand in the first half and it was pretty packed apart from under the roof. Then in the second half i ventured to the North stand which was even busier. The attendance seems right to me, there wasn't much space available. Some Cas fans are just clutching at straws and wishing it wasn't so, but it's only natural that attendance increases on the back of a side performing well on the pitch.
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