Welcome on board Jon but you'll have to take you're turn has scapegoat so be warned.

Nice for us signing a young player, I wont judge him on saturday as its his first game and needs to get used to how we play. Exciting times ahead especially with the news coming on Saturday!

Kirmond Ali Mellors Mariano Walshaw and now Jon, reckon we will see some changes.



Can't speak for Jon because i just don't know but surely Lubey is being groomed and not released.

Really hope Mariano stays and Mellars is shown the door, I don't get this Mariano being lazy business, everytime I've seen him in a Wakey shirt he's always had plenty of strong runs with decent speed, knows where the try line is and runs the sort of lines Smith thrives on. Unless its his defence that lets him down ? , but I can't remember him being worse than anyone else. I wouldn't call him a potential superstar, but a likeable solid backrower that is in the same mould as Kirmond.

we need a prop and a stand off and we sign another backrow forward could be a good signing looks like big Frankie is on his way another whose face does not fit with Agar Frankie will never be a world beater but has had limited opportunity under Agar

At least three good posters have laid down massive clues as to whats wrong with Frankie. Come on folks read the whole thread and read between the lines

our website says come through wigan system ,one that was beaten three times by our 18s the year they won the title .this kid stood out so much that having watched all academy games cant think who he is . looking forward to see if he makes an impression on me now but talking about mariano as a former a coach, a second rower what 6 3 or 4 with plenty of pace would be a dream come true and to think i couldnt do owt with akid early or mid 20s who posseses these talents id look on myself as a bit of a failure

We don't know the full situation to be honest, I think we can be pretty certain that lack of ability isn't the reason he's not getting anywhere near the first team. Whatever the reason is, I'm still happy to accept Agar's decision in the matter.

So is Agar a poor coach now because he couldn't make Mariano better?

I wonder how we got him when we had no money. Surely being such a world beater he would have been snapped up?



The point is he is a very good runner of the ball but he does go missing sometimes so maybe wants someone with more all round skills. Either way Agar knows how he responds better than any of us so I'll stick with what he decides.

We've had this discussion many times and the kids who leaves has never made us regret it.

Is anyone regretting replacing Gledhill being replaced by Raleigh?

What if its Mellars that leaves and is replaced by another second rower but opens up a spot for an overseas/non fed trained halfback or prop to come in thereby not reducing the squad numbers but increasing the options.

Would make sense, Mellars has sort of sprung to life in the last few games, putting himself in the shop window perhaps?