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| OK tbf yeh he was magnetic is 2012 .but the years after he was bloody garbage....the rest is well document
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| Quote Scarlet Pimpernell="Scarlet Pimpernell"The milk of human kindness emits from every pore.'"
I know a mother who lost her kid in an accident where she was smashed into head on by a drunk, when you have this first hand experience of drunk driving it obviously impacts on your view of this offence. The fact that he refused to provide a sample again in my opinion shows what kind of "man" he is and then to put the cherry on the top he submits a sick note to the club for "anxiety"....what a waste of skin he really is. All this aside i still believe he was the most over rated player i have ever seen. Delighted he has gone and well done to Smith and Carter in having some class in binning him instead of playing him in the MPG.
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| He's actually a pretty good bloke who would do anything for anybody. Never and I mean never said a bad word about any player, team mate or opposition. He had a few issues which were highlighted and under the spotlight. But they shouldn't undermine some of the great memories he gave. Il always remember that cross field kick that Foxy took at full tilt to score
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| Quote Mable_Syrup="Mable_Syrup"He's actually a pretty good bloke who would do anything for anybody. Never and I mean never said a bad word about any player, team mate or opposition. He had a few issues which were highlighted and under the spotlight. But they shouldn't undermine some of the great memories he gave. Il always remember that cross field kick that Foxy took at full tilt to score'"
"would do anything for anybody"......wouldn't give a breath test to that copper though would he? .....explain please
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| Quote worksopwildcat="worksopwildcat"Most over rated player I have seen and a total moron hope he gets the luck he deserves.'"
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| Quote worksopwildcat="worksopwildcat""would do anything for anybody"......wouldn't give a breath test to that copper though would he? .....explain please[/quot
Unfortunately he was one of many who refuse to provide or who drive OPL.
He made a bad call that day but that doesn't make him an out and out bad person!
As a player I don't think he was overrated at all - he was a class act who just couldn't do it every match. I think part of the problem was that we relied on him too much.
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| I was a huge fan during his first stint - when he was undeniably brilliant; it never really came together after his spell at Salford, and his actions at the end of the season will, for many, be unforgivable. Without knowing all the details of that, I'll just wish him well for the future.
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| Quote bren2k="bren2k"I was a huge fan during his first stint - when he was undeniably brilliant; it never really came together after his spell at Salford, and his actions at the end of the season will, for many, be unforgivable. Without knowing all the details of that, I'll just wish him well for the future.'"
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| Quote worksopwildcat="worksopwildcat"Most over rated player I have seen and a total moron hope he gets the luck he deserves.'" . T
I know people with mental issues and they are hard work, but I dont blame them as its out of their control. This is very insensitive
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| ike many have said his first stint here was brilliant a cracking passer of the ball, Kirmo thrived off his passes. Thought he had a very poor year this one but so did many; I never rated him as a kicker in play though. All the best for the future.
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| I agree about the kicking, and that has been one of our downfalls this year (in fact since Sykes left) but I remember a 'no look kick' he did at Salford. It was on tv and they had to get the second camera to catch it as he even made the camera man look the other way. Was outstanding.
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| Quote djcool="djcool". T
I know people with mental issues and they are hard work, but I dont blame them as its out of their control. This is very insensitive'"
DJ. I am not looking for an argument with anybody and I hope that people with any illness mental or otherwise receive the treatment and support they need, but come on if getting behind the wheel of a car when you are drunk is "out of your control" then surely you should be in a secure environment where you can not be a danger to yourself or others. Like I've said on a previous post I know a mother who lost her daughter to a drunk driving a car head on into her....I think it is totally unacceptable behaviour.
I wont be contributing to this thread anymore....i think i have made my point....i appreciate it is at odds with what others think/believe and i am genuinley shocked that my view is seen as insensitive.
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