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| Quote MrBigStuff="MrBigStuff"He came upto to Stanley and trained with us whilst Gary Lord was our coach, had alot of input into the training drills we did, joined in and was a top bloke... Obviously made a big mistake but who hasnt... Also heard he does alot in the community with kids training camps... Give him a chance to prove the doubters wrong...'"
Agree, couldn't give a monkeys what he did in his past, as long as he learned from his mistakes and it made him a better person, we as a club want the best bloke for the job and if it's him so be it.
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| Quote vastman="vastman"There is no doubt he was guilty, made worse by his badge kissing antics. However that's a long time ago - if he's the man for the job then so be it for me - frankly I don't know enough about him or the roll within the club to really judge.'"
whoops double post. see below
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| Quote vastman="vastman"There is no doubt he was guilty, made worse by his badge kissing antics. However that's a long time ago - if he's the man for the job then so be it for me - frankly I don't know enough about him or the roll within the club to really judge.'"
Would you know enough about Ben Johnson to allow him to coach your kids/grandkids if they were budding athletes?
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| The difference between Ben and Ryan Hudson is that one made some mistakes in his personal life and one (it appears to me) tried to cheat at the sport.
I didn't like BC coming in. I thought it gave the club a bad image but he instantly proved me wrong with his attitude. As it was off field antics that casued the problem, his on field performance and attitude could change my mind.
Taking drugs in sport is not the same. It has been alledged that it was a pain killer he took on holiday and that may be the case but I don't like it and think there are better people for the job given that background.
His sister being really fit only partly makes up for the mistake
However, I don't run the club so we will have to see how it goes.
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| Quote Wollo-Wollo-Wollo-Wayoo="Wollo-Wollo-Wollo-Wayoo"Would you know enough about Ben Johnson to allow him to coach your kids/grandkids if they were budding athletes?'"
I have no vested interest in Hudson either way - however he was banned for taking a drug containing a stimulant perscribed on holiday, without his knowledge he claimed. However the RFL rightly said ignorance was no excuse. However silly he was not to check and he is more than smart enough to know this he is hardly in the same class as Ben Johnson. He also paid the price, 2 years.
So yes I would let him coach my kids, in fact why wouldn't I unless you're suggesting he's a pusher which really is a bit OTT.
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| Everyone kicked off when Agar was appointed, but he has been given a chance and he has taken it. Lets give Ryan a chance and see what happens ey.
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| Wouldnt say we were mates, but I have met him on a few occasions and found him to be a decent lad. Very approachable and his knowledge of the game is second to none.
He got caught, he served his ban. Let he who without sin and all that!
As long as he got the job on merit then i dont see a problem with it.
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| Quote WakeyManDan8="WakeyManDan8"Everyone kicked off when Agar was appointed, but he has been given a chance and he has taken it. Lets give Ryan a chance and see what happens ey.'"
I thought we gave him a chance when Wakefield plucked him out of the obscurity of the Shuddersfield make weights back in John Harbin's day. All he did was use Wakefield until it suited him. He's hit the buffers again and must have very few options so Wakefield will do nicely till he can get somewhere he really wants. Admittedley not quite worth refusing to renew our season tickets but very close!
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| Quote Wollo-Wollo-Wollo-Wayoo="Wollo-Wollo-Wollo-Wayoo"I thought we gave him a chance when Wakefield plucked him out of the obscurity of the Shuddersfield make weights back in John Harbin's day. All he did was use Wakefield until it suited him. He's hit the buffers again and must have very few options so Wakefield will do nicely till he can get somewhere he really wants. Admittedley not quite worth refusing to renew our season tickets but very close!'"
You're really not keen, fair enough 
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| Quote Fritzys Mullet="Fritzys Mullet"Wouldnt say we were mates, but I have met him on a few occasions and found him to be a decent lad. Very approachable and his knowledge of the game is second to none.
He got caught, he served his ban. Let he who without sin and all that!
As long as he got the job on merit then i dont see a problem with it.'"
I see your point about 'he without sin' but I haven't taken a banned drug so I'm putting myself lower down the sin list than him.
I know I'm being judemental and unfortgiving but I am very much against drugs in sport.
I guess my issue is that I don't get the "it was a pain killer prescribed on holiday".
Firstly, as a professional sportsman, unless you were given it while under
anaesthetic, then you should have checked it out.
Secondly, and I'd love it if someone could show me the evidence as I would completely back down but if you were caught with steroids in your ystem, wouldn't you blame it on a holiday pain killer rather than say yes I was cheating?
I'm usually the one saying we should wait and see but banned drugs are banned drugs for a reason as far as I am concerned.
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| Quote Theboyem="Theboyem"Joining the the club to coach the juniors apparently. Glenn Morrisons replacement maybe?'"
Would have thought Tony Drury would have been given this job.
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| Quote PopTart="PopTart"I see your point about 'he without sin' but I haven't taken a banned drug so I'm putting myself lower down the sin list than him.
I know I'm being judemental and unfortgiving but I am very much against drugs in sport.
I guess my issue is that I don't get the "it was a pain killer prescribed on holiday".
Firstly, as a professional sportsman, unless you were given it while under
anaesthetic, then you should have checked it out.
Secondly, and I'd love it if someone could show me the evidence as I would completely back down but if you were caught with steroids in your ystem, wouldn't you blame it on a holiday pain killer rather than say yes I was cheating?
I'm usually the one saying we should wait and see but banned drugs are banned drugs for a reason as far as I am concerned.'"
There are far worse things in life than "banned drugs." I'm very much of the he's made a mistake, he's paid for it - he has a wealth of knowledge and experience playing at the highest level and I for one am pleased to see him return to pass this on to the youngsters at Wakey.
As for another posters comments about jumping ship - as you know it is only a short career, players must go where the money/trophies are as they are usually retired from the game at least 30 years before they hit true retirement age. With the greatest respect, rugby players aren't known for their towering intellects - so have to make the most of the career while they can.
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