13350 widnes

12000 leigh

Thats the capacity of both clubs

So you've spent at least 2 pages arguing about if we'll own the ground or not, then when it appears that your wrong and we will own it, you decide that it doesn't matter!



On a scale of 1-10 how Bitter are you that our Stadium plans are actually coming to Fruition?!

That's all conjecture - it's not been confirmed by anyone



The leaflet given out yesterday just said we'd play all home games next season at Widnes

I'll be going to the saints wire game then, although it'll be strange the two teams i hate the most playing in my favourite ground in the world haha.

The reebok is a bit strange for us like.

Who gives a "monkeys" whether its owned or leased. Its what is on the park that matters not who owns the asset. By the way I have seen several games at widnes this year and it is a cracking set up there and streets ahead of knowsley road.

Have to say this is complete and utter rubbish.



I dont know where you have heard any of that from, presume its down the pub.



Whenever Saints have talked on the radio or have even written it on their website they have only ever said they will be playing at Widnes.



There is no truth at present that Saints will be playing any games at Goodison, for the simple reason that Saints have to work out whether it is financially viable.



Next year is going to be hard enough financially for Saints without moving hither and thither.



Think about the logistical nightmare of arranging were season ticket holders would sit on a week to week basis, if your moving from ground to ground.

Now add in the likely fact that such an action would probably further damage season ticket sales.

It would also upset fans who bought season tickets and then found out that certain matches would be played outside Widnes at venues that they could no longer get too, due to say work commitements, cost of getting there, lack of adequate transportation etc.

A good example of this was when Wigan were forced to move a playoff game to Widnes. It caused an almighty stink due to the disruption in fans normal matchday behaviours.

To put it accurately, the club are considering the small possibility of a game at Goodison should the right fixture fall at the end of May. That could be Warrington, Wigan or Leeds. Can't see it being anyone else.



The Reebok and Leigh rumours have no foundation whatsoever.



There is a small chance one game will be played at Everton, the rest will all be at Widnes.

Istn that what i have just said ????

A genuine question to the Saints fans - does anyone know if the financing is in the form of a directors loan or the equivalent of a mortgage agreement?



I think its great news for Saints about the new stadium - but surely no-one is naive enough to think that the stadium will be pure profit for the club from day one. You will own the ground as a paper asset in the short term and a significant asset in the long term, but surely the additional revenue created will initially be funding repayments for the construction work? If Director funding was so plentiful and generous, surely the stadium would have been built without the need to relocate from KR to accommodate a land sale?



I actually think that the Stobart move for a season may be a good move for Saints, coupled with the rebranding of 'Saints RL' to remove the geographical ties and with the incentive to existing season ticket holders, they may actually come away with more fans the following year notwithstanding the new stadium factor. Lets be honest, floating RL supporters in Widnes who have deserted the Chemics / Vikings in recent years may choose to follow SL rugby on their own patch and increase the catchment of the club in the long term, particularly if Widnes miss out on a franchise again.

I dont think KR is big enough to house the new ground so would have to relocate

Well if it's our game at Goodison, i think there'd be less of the 'you scouse b*stards'

The insunation from an earlier post was that the Saints directors had deep pockets and therefore were funding the stadium comfortably - rather than the standard directors loan approach repayable against future stadium revenue with a deposit paid by the land sale of the old stadium. By having to sell KR to fund the contruction work, it appears that Saints directors are not as super rich and benevolent as some would like us to believe. Simon Moran's unfortunately don't grow on trees for most RL clubs.