I doubt it. When was the last time you heard of a company CEO bailing out a loss making organisation out of their personal wealth? He might have done this but it's just as likely the club has borrowed money (as all business do) to finance their operations.







Needs to factor in even more cash for severance pay then.

Noticed it mentioned the value of Orrell as £3.6m, isn't the rumour that we have sold the site for housing?



If so, that will sort out any losses short term anyway!

The whole sponsorship of our shirts has been a mystery to me, we seem to have unheard of or parochial companies whereas some other SL clubs have managed to attract national household brands.



We should be casting the net to catch a Vodafone (tie up to NZ warriors?), a Samsung (PL and SL champions link), Emirates (deep pockets) etc. etc.



Are we the most famous club in the world or not?







selling land and assets is not a viable long term model

It depends how much they are offering though. I'd rather have a more small local sponsor than a big global name if they are willing to pay more. Realistically I suspect improving attendances and (probably more importantly) Sky viewing figures would need to happen to improve our attractiveness to sponsors.

If Im honest the fact that average crowds have declined by a couple thousand when we have been relatively successful says it all - if we had won not pots the decrease would have been significantly higher.

The biggest worry for IL will be new applications for season tickets i.e. first time buyers. The stat on that will be horrendous.

Personally I like IL and I would be amazed if there are not significant changes next year in the squad and coaching.

He does do this.



The club has a bank overdraft with Barclays which stood at £378k at the end of the financial year - Lenagan personally guarantees this with the bank on behalf of the club.



At the end of 2016 the club owed Lenagan £5.9m (up from £4.8m in 2015) through the loans provided by his investment company (which is the club's parent company).



Without Lenagan the club would be up poop creek.

The increase in rental cost is in relation to increased match revenues (i.e. higher ticket prices etc). The lease we have bases rental costs on match revenues.

Like I said the club has loans. It's Barclays who actually gave the money in the form of an overdraft to the club, not IL. How do you know he [ipersonally[/i guarantees these loans? He'd be a bit mad to personally guarantee any loans. The clubs has assets (Orrell) a bank would have no trouble in securing such an overdraft on. Even if he does personally guarantee the overdraft it's still Barclay's who have lent the money to the club.



As to the investment company, if the clubs owes his investment company £5.9m that is who it owes the money to. I don't doubt he had to come up with a wedge of cash to buy the club in the first place which he will presumably have funded the investment company with and this is where I assume most of the £5.9m debt comes from. And if the club owes the money used to buy it that means he has not gifted the club the cash he used to buy it in the first place. Not that I expect him to necessarily but he has still loaded the debt onto the club which he might expect to recover if he ever sold it. He may never expect it back but it is currently a debt not a gift. If that £5.9m doesn't come mainly from him buying it in the first place then that is an average of £590K a year he has chucked at the club. I can't see how he can have been doing that or the club would have recorded bigger losses in past seasons.

I really don't know where to start with this - you've clearly not looked at the accounts. If you did you wouldn't have written this (or maybe you would?).







The club overdraft went DOWN last year - Operating loss for the year was over £600k.







Because it says this in the accounts:

"[iMr I F Lenagan, a Director of the Company, has provided personal guarantees to the Bank on behalf of the Company[/i"







As I've already said the bank overdraft reduced last year (from £392k to £378k) but the operating loss was over £600k. Who do you actually think is funding the loss?







The investment company is Lenagan if you'd bother to read the accounts. The amount owed went up by over a £1m last year alone and now stands at £5.9m. He bought the club for £2m. Without the Lenagan family the club would be in financial trouble.

No I have not looked at the accounts but I do understand the difference between an individual and a company and the fact that IL vias his investment company has loaded the money spent onto the club as a debt so it's a not a gift. Given Orrell is valued at £3.6m if it all went belly up tomorrow he's also not facing a £5.9nm loss either. If he bought it for £2m and the club owes £5.9m where did the £3.9m come from? He's been in charge 10 years. If this sort of loss and level of debt had been reported under the previous regime they would not be being accorded the accolade as a saviour. People would be slagging the situation off because the club was being run at a loss requiring handouts.

It makes a few posts about Lenagan using the club for personal gain in the thread about the Aussie game seem even more crazy this news. I remember one which went along the lines of-



Income

Gate Recepits £2.5m

Sky Money-£2m



Outgoings

Wages-£1.8m

Stadium Rent-£300k



They indicated that Lenagan must be taking the rest!



Brilliant.

Seriously Dave, read the accounts for the club and Lenagan Investments then come back and tell me why Lenagan isn't propping up the club. You obviously have no idea what you're talking about because you clearly don't know the figures, yet seem incapable of admitting it.