I know you know Rogues but for those that don't recall it was seven times in a row. However, that also included four doubles, two trebles (WCC). Oh and I have not added three years we won the Premiership (1992, 1994 1nd 1995) and the Lancashire Cup 1993. I remember all the loving and respect from opposition fans do you?

It's this from Stu, who to be fair is generally a good poster, that makes me laugh. He's here saying they don't get the credit they deserve but thinks nothing of posting:



What about when Wigan dominated all those years? They were the only full time team then so hardly a fair competition. Now that the playing field is level, they haven't dominated in the same way.



In other words "it's an unfair comp when Wigan take an advantage but a level playing field when Saints do".



They can't have it both ways.

So what advantage do we have in a salary capped sport?



My point about Wigan was that they were the only full time club in the game (maybe Leeds were as well if I recall) playing against part-time players who trained twice a week whilst working full-time.



Quite a big advantage I'd say. Not to mention the cash to pay record fees for the likes of Offiah at the time.

Leeds were the first team to go full time followed by Wigan and Widnes. Saints weren't officialy full time but didn't have many players with jobs, certainly the Aussies and Kiwis didn't. like someone posted earlier we had won plenty before then.

You didn't even play the same number of games! Exactly how much of an advantage do you want before you recognise it as an advantage?

And, just for the record Stu, what advantage did Wigan have that was denied to Saints? They could have gone fully professional too if they'd wanted. Other teams did.

Sorry, which of our 3 consecutive GF winning years are you referring to?

Correct. However that doesn't mean everyone could afford to. Theoretically every SL team can spend the same salary cap but not every team spends up to the maximum.

utter myth

Think your missing the point, unless you start the season with 6,7, or 8 players missing. With good conditioning and resting a player/players with niggles, you wouldn't end up with that many injured. Unless your very unlucky, or have a pack that is getting battered every week. In which case it's down to poor recruitment. Using Warrington as an example, pretty good backs but a lightweight pack. I'm convinced several have been playing injured, probably trying to stem a run of poor performances. Trouble is it tends to more long term absence.

or he just played the covid card...again

Are you saying St Helens couldn't afford to? So when did you go professional and how come you could afford to then? Secondly how could you afford to pay Australian players top dollar but couldn't afford to put a few part timers on full time pay? Lastly how could Leeds, Wigan and Widnes afford it but the mighty Saints couldn't?