Dont miss this:



[urlhttp://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2009/oct/10/leeds-st-helens-super-league-grand-final1[/url

I think you will find we won most games with eastmond at 7.



The bulls away, Wigan home, Warrington away and quins away being the stand out wins.



He also was the match winner against Warrington and Wigan.

Long found a novel way to make himself the centre of attention – as the victim of a high tackle from Rob Burrow, his pint-sized opposite number.

Thats just plain wrong !!



They have been entertaining me loads in the past 3 years grand finals

While in decline I don't think they will go down to the level we were at unfortunately. I think they will just come down to our level now. Only Leeds to decline now and the salary cap will have done its job of bringing the best teams down rather than the poorer teams improve.

In the 6 games you played whilst Long was out didn't you win 3 and lose 3?

Must have a selective memory

My father used to talk about "eras"

There was the mid war era when Wigan had a wingman called Johnny Ring who one season scored I think 68 tries.

Then there was the immediate post war era when Hudds had a good team.

Now we have the Super League/Salary Cap era.

What is obvious though through these "eras" there is one constant.

That Wigan are the most successful club in the game having won more trophies than any other club.

We do need to add to the total and soon but that fact still remains true.

Lets hope IL/MM/SW can keep it that way!

A typical scathing Andy Wilson article.



Each week he picks out someone or some club he doesn't like, and has a catty go at them. What's makes this one unusual is that it's Sean Long and Saints who are in the firing line. Granted, it's difficult to feel any kind of empathy for Sean Long at the best of times, and after his antics of this last week the holier-than-thou Guardian columnist was always going to line him up for a righteous pop. But there was no mention there, I notice, of the ridiculous video ref decision near the end, which took the game out of Saints' reach. Even as a Wigan fan I was shocked by that one.

I thought they were level

Ian Smith should have been VR at the GF. He's been doing well as VR.

As soon as Bentham was announced I said he'd mess up.

The Smith try was ludicrous, he was well in front when the ball was kicked.

Why didn't Bentham give Saints a penalty try when Webb went in knees first to stop Gardner? It was Webb's foul play that stopped Gardner from scoring so why not a pen try?

There were certainly a couple of incidents that massively helped Leeds out, and yet Wilson's article implies that, because Ganson was the referee, the officials were assisting Saints.



That said, I agree with him that appointing Ganson to control a match like that was fraught with danger - for Ganson's credibility as much as for the game's. I don't know whether the worst referee there's ever been - i.e. Cummins - was behind the decision to stop worrying about a ref's place of origin, but it was a bloody stupid one, and it would have been very typical of a man who [idid[/i appear to favour St Helens whenever he was in charge of Wigan v Saints fixtures.