Is it a case of him just not being happy at the club anymore? All you’ve stated are tell tale signs IMO

Who told you in the off season last year Greenwood would be out of the door?

Quite right, you told us he'd be on his way out over the off season in a swap deal for a Salford or Saints player. Now he's on loan at Leeds a month into the season. Smashed that one

I agree. It's amazing how quickly players thought to be superfluous at Wigan suddenly become rubbish. Happens [iall[/i the time.



As to Greenwood he's a left sided player and looked great in that side when Faz was out. Greenwood & Bateman was a better 2nd row than Faz & Bateman that season by some distance. Faz is also a left sided player and neither Faz nor Greenwood look the same player on the other side of the pitch. Perhaps him being a lefty should have been taken into consideration before signing him?

For some reason he was not favoured by their new coach at the time who never gave him a chance, Garth Brennan. In 2017 he played 22 times for them. In 2018 following Brennan's arrival he was binned off to Burleigh Bears and didn't play another NRL game. Brennan by the way was sacked after 18 months having won only 12 out of 40 games.

i know you lot have had this discussion on here a fair bit, but i always recall him playing on the right whenever he was for saints against warrington, usually running through richie myler, who defended on the left.

I have a feeling that Greenwood could be on the way to Warrington at season's end as a replacement for BMM

In our group who go together I'm the one who's defended Greenwood the most.



He played left side most of last year up to Faz's return about mid June (bar a couple of decent games early season Greenwood was a shadow of his 2018 version).

His performances in the reserves have been poor and the HKR one was bordering on Awful.

I would have picked him before now, certainly Cas away, but at the end of the day he has to find that fire in his belly from somewhere to find his way back in.

Blaming an NRL coach who won 12 in 40 has nothing to do with Greenwoods attitude 2 years later (Ps, his successor won 5 in 24 in 2019 and only a few of the last 10 or so 2018, so less than Brennan).

I know personally someone who went to the Titans training camp pre season late 2017 and the first thing he told me was that Greenwood was miles behind all the other players, Sarginson was struggling but he was giving it everything and the coach couldn't argue with his work ethic, less so Greenwood.

I think a fully firing Greenwood is an asset, but a poorly motivated Greenwood isnt doing the feel of the camp much good. He needs to go away and find some enthusiasm from somehwere landing it's at another club good luck to him. If it isnt then Wigam need to make a decision because if he doesnt impress at Leeds there wont be an awful lot waiting for him when he returns unless being away changes him.

And ot may be Joe Greenwoods fault as well !

See fanzone thread!!!!

I hear the train a coming, it's rolling round the bend

I've told the wife I'll be home

But dont know when

I'm stuck on Wigan station

Think I'm going to die!

I cant here the whistle blowing

I think I'm going to cry

Once again Grimmy, you are wrong about everything. It wasn't me who said that, it was likely somebody else. I was the first to bring up that he would be going way back around the start of November but i did not mention any swap deals.