Yes, it wasn't a try. His momentum had been stopped, if you watch closely he makes a 2nd effort by using his legs to drive himself over the line.



It should have been a pen to saints for a double movement.

Not seen the Wellens try in the 2nd half again, but it looked a very clear knock on by Roby the play before that never got picked up.

Watch it then. Roby attempted to pass the ball it hit Tomkins and Saints regained possession.



At first I was screaming for six more tackles but on reflection it did not appear that Tomkins played at the ball so play on was the correct call.

Cumming is definitely not a Wigan fan. Years ago, when he was a teacher and was refereeing a school match, he told a neighbour of mine that he hated Wigan.

But the feeling is mutual.

No he apparently, couldnt make it so Stuart Cummings appointed himself for the game. How strange was that then? Ganson must have been busy elsewhere.

True; you can see him digging his feet into the turf and stretching his legs to flip himself over.

The ref did get it wrong it was a pen to us.

For once, Cummings got it exactly right. [iThe ball is in touch when it or a player in contact with it touches the touch-line or the ground beyond the touch-line or any object on or outside the touch-line except when a player, tackled in the field-of-play, steps into touch as he regains his feet, in which case he shall play-the-ball in the field-of-play.[/i Cummings judged that neither Charnley nor the Saints players were responsible for him ending up over the try line (which in this respect is analogous to being in touch) and he ended up in that position as a natural conclusion of his attempts to regain his feet whilst the saints players (who were entitled to do so) looked to stop him grounding the ball.



It was the only fair way of restarting the game.

Wrong.



If it wasn't a try then it should have been a penalty to Wigan for the initial high shot on Charnley.....

Agreed.

Yeah thats a great argument, well done

. I was responding to the rubbish that was being spouted by one of your fellow fans.



I also notice that Coley has not been charged by the RFL so they obviously see it in the same way as I did. I suggest you actually use your brain before posting such drivel and making yourself look stupid.

I wouldn't have bothered posting. These people aren't here for a sensible debate.



I've just watched the game again and the refereeing doesn't look any better. Nor do the silly comments from many non-Wigan fans on this thread. The Roby knock on before the Wellens try is still a knock on, the referee still allows Saints players to be a couple of yards offside again and again, the decision of the VR on the Charnley no-try remains baffling and the failure of the referee to use the yellow card at the end of the first or beginning of the second half after persistent professional fouls by Saints players remains staggering.



I don't blame Saints for taking advantage of weak refereeing, that's professionalism. I blame the referee for an absolutely diabolical performance.

You really believe that one side was offside more consistantly than the other?