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| Quote Dave26="Dave26"Fair enough. but if diving to put the ball down isn't in the act of scoring a try, what is?'"
The laws state:
[iIf a player fouls an opponent who is touching down for a try, a penalty kick at goal shall be taken from in front of the goal posts after the attempt to convert the try. After his kick has been taken the ball shall be deemed dead and play shall be restarted from the halfway line. This law applies to the period during which the ball is touched down for a try and not to any subsequent period.[/i
The fact that Tomkins was (or wasn't) diving at the time is irrelevant. He was not touching down for a try by any means. |
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| Quote kirkstaller="kirkstaller"The laws state:
[iIf a player fouls an opponent who is touching down for a try, a penalty kick at goal shall be taken from in front of the goal posts after the attempt to convert the try. After his kick has been taken the ball shall be deemed dead and play shall be restarted from the halfway line. This law applies to the period during which the ball is touched down for a try and not to any subsequent period.[/i
The fact that Tomkins was (or wasn't) diving at the time is irrelevant. He was not touching down for a try by any means.'"
Bullsh8t. And you know it.
Another Yaaarkshire reinterpretation of a perfectly clear rule. |
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| Quote Pieman="Pieman"he was diving over the line so was in the act of scoring, I know the rules thanks'"
Where have you pulled the phrase 'act of scoring' from? |
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| Quote Cruncher="Cruncher"Bullsh8t. And you know it.'"
I'm but a humble servant of the rules. |
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| Quote kirkstaller="kirkstaller"The fact that Tomkins was (or wasn't) diving at the time is irrelevant. He was not touching down for a try by any means.'"
Gibberish. If he wasn't touching down for a try how the heck did he he manage to ground the ball whilst unconscious. He's was out cold before he hit the floor. If he was still running upright he'd have just dropped the ball but he was that close to the floor his ball carrying arm just dropped down before he could release the ball |
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| Quote kirkstaller="kirkstaller"The laws state:
[iIf a player fouls an opponent who is touching down for a try, a penalty kick at goal shall be taken from in front of the goal posts after the attempt to convert the try. After his kick has been taken the ball shall be deemed dead and play shall be restarted from the halfway line. This law applies to the period during which the ball is touched down for a try and not to any subsequent period.[/i
The fact that Tomkins was (or wasn't) diving at the time is irrelevant. He was not touching down for a try by any means.'"
I think if you get knocked out and still ground the ball, you were knocked out in the act of scoring. I seldom gave them in my reffing career but would have done there. |
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As he was unconscious after the impact yet scored he couldn't have been more in the act of scoring a try.
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| Quote dirtbag83="dirtbag83"Gibberish. If he wasn't touching down for a try how the heck did he he manage to ground the ball whilst unconscious. He's was out cold before he hit the floor. If he was still running upright he'd have just dropped the ball but he was that close to the floor his ball carrying arm just dropped doen before he could release the ball'"
Touching down for a try means just that - touching down. Tomkins wasn't doing this. |
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| Quote endoman="endoman"As he was unconscious after the impact yet scored he couldn't have been more in the act of scoring a try.'"
Where have you pulled the phrase 'act of scoring' from?
The rules certainly don't mention this. They are concerned with the player 'touching down'. |
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| Quote kirkstaller="kirkstaller"The laws state:
[iIf a player fouls an opponent who is touching down for a try, a penalty kick at goal shall be taken from in front of the goal posts after the attempt to convert the try. After his kick has been taken the ball shall be deemed dead and play shall be restarted from the halfway line. This law applies to the period during which the ball is touched down for a try and not to any subsequent period.[/i
The fact that Tomkins was (or wasn't) diving at the time is irrelevant. He was not touching down for a try by any means.'"
So does touching down for a try refer to the ball being in conatct with the floor, or the player being in the act of placing the ball down (ie touching it down for a try)? In my opinion (which could well be wrong) diving to place the ball on the ground would be the act of touching the ball down for a try? |
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The only 8 point trys ive seen have been given when the player has been fouled after the ball has been grounded
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| Quote Dave26="Dave26"So does touching down for a try refer to the ball being in conatct with the floor, or the player being in the act of placing the ball down (ie touching it down for a try)? In my opinion (which could well be wrong) diving to place the ball on the ground would be the act of touching the ball down for a try?'"
I refer again to the rules:
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This law applies to the period during which the ball is touched down for a try and not to any subsequent period.[/i
The ball must be touched down, not simply an attempt to ground the ball, such as diving. |
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