partly yes, however the op and others posted making sweeping generalisations, i cannot however assess how scared an individual may be at a given time so yes your right. the issue i have is the ability to slate every one for the actions of a minority, i didn't come on here to score points just to give an opinion, i also feel you exagerate a tad, was it really "full" of stories of holiganism? or a few issolated incidents, given rise to this current hysteria?



oh and less of the "rubbish arguements" if you don't mind!

p.s where's these stats?

Not a chance he will go to Aus.

you his dad? how can you make that statement?

Uncle Fred.

fred side? ok! must be on his mothers side then

I'm judging more off the fact theres at least 2 or 3 long threads about stuff thats happened whereas theres none so far about Saints.

For example the last wire game I remember the guy who was beat up near the North Stand

And the one before there was the Wire fan who busted someone on here's wifes nose

And theres the fact that I myself have had a big Vodka bottle thrown at me while getting in my car after last seasons game at Wigan by some young yobs (who definitely were not old enough to be drinking that Vodka on the coach btw)



But yes I agree it is unfair to tar the entire group of Wire fans for the minority's actions but sadly that is how these things tend to work. Look at Millwall in soccer lol.



I will admit the Wire fans causing it seem to be the "new" fans the young chavs that would never have gone before they started winning things. (dont know about the bust nose incident I dont know how old the guy that did that was)

He was homesick when he went over with the england squad no way he will go and live out there

perhaps your focusing on the negatives a little too much, i witnessed bad behaviour from wigan fans this season post match, but didn't mention it on rlfans (until now, i think) but i also sit in the 3 pigeons every year and have the crack with wigan fans pre match, so i can see where your coming from to a degree but tarring all fans with the same brush or blowing incidents out of proportion paints an untrue picture of what's really going on imo. every club has it's young idiots who can't take their drink and when they get caught missbehaving they'll get their come uppance. in the mean time i'll get my pipe bombs ready for when you visit later in the year!

people change, we'll see.

Correct. it's something sadly that many fans of all clubs do. Look at the threads on most Rl fans sites to confirm.



I'll discuss Rugby League all day with other fans, and we'll disagree. However I'll also sit with them pre and post match and have a beer. That's how I was brought up, and that's the way it should be. I don't like segregated stadia, it creates far more problems than it solves, but makes it easier to steward.



The MAJORITY of Rugby League fans are superb and can be humorous, and it's up to them to sort out the few idiots that attach themselves to our clubs.



Rant over.

Agree the worst it used to be when I started going was "hope you lose" and people laughed it off but as we all know success brings the idiots back. I luckily live in newton so have been brought up not having any choice but to get on with other teams fans and tbh I wouldn't have it any other way fighting over rugby is pathetic there's simply no need to fight let alone over rugby!

Great post Rogues,agree with you entirely and this is what RL is all about.