Exactly, as I've just pointed out on the why does Lam thread.

Let's be honest, the people making the most anti-Lenagan noise are complete idiots. IL has been a fantastic owner for the most part. Mistakes have been made, and some of the things he did well in the early days have tailed off, but we're lucky to have him and his cash propping up what is otherwise a failing business

I'm fine with IL and what he's done for the club, and fully appreciate that cash is tight and he can't go around waving his cheque book in the air, but the same can be said for most other clubs (perhaps Wire excepted), but good players don't simply become bad players when coached and mentored correctly. I see a lot of similarities to Saints in 2017... A great player such as Kieron Cunningham doesn't necessarily make a good coach and look what happened there. McManus had the balls to see what was happening and put a stop to it. Perhaps we're too far gone, entrenched in bad practices and attitude, but IL needs to grow some and have AL in his office now, and not for just a friendly chat.

I don’t think anyone in their right mind can question IFL and his commitment to the club. He’s been and continues to be a wonderful owner and custodian of the club.



His lack of action over Lam, and in my opinion Radlinski, is clearly an issue but a relatively minor one when it comes to the bigger picture of what he has done for the club.



My main concern however is that this mistake is going to take seasons to repair in relation to on field performance and getting supporters back through the gates.

My issue with Lenagan is not his removal but his accountability to us. He’s hiding, has been hiding for a long time and it’s only fan discontent online that seems to have driven next week’s forum to be set up. I’ve slept on what happened last night and just find the situation embarrassing that club leadership has led us down this path. If it’s because of covid, I don’t know because the communication has been non-existent. It could be because of other factors but we haven’t been made aware. It’s the general apathy that comes form the club that is frustrating. We’ve heard plenty from Radlinksi about whiskey and re-branding, initially plenty from Lenagan about the Latics takeover/ground purchase and then radio silence. I don’t expect anyone to come in and take over but I just expect better and I don’t think that’s too much to ask.

If the Wigan fans cant be bothered to go to the games why should the players be bothered to perform?

Nearly 11,000 home fans there last night so I don’t think fan numbers gave fallen much. They will next year though.

If performance works on a sliding scale of how many fans turn up, then we should actually be flying compared to pretty much every team in the league.

Why should people pay money to watch a team who cant play?

I don't disagree with any of that. I think you're spot on.



A small part of me thinks back to the early part of the season when Martin Sadler announced on good authority that the club was in the final stages of transition to Danson. IL was swift (for once) to denounce this. Sadler then advised he stood by his original report and that his source was good.



No smoke without fire. If behind the scenes secret preparations were indeed to retire then no wonder why his heart doesn't seem to be in it anymore. We all know IL is the type to announce only on his terms but surely any backtracking now (by announcing during the off season) would only show there was truth in the article.



Have you ever handed in your notice and have to give a month's notice, that final week where you still show up in body but your head can't be bothered? It feels like that.

Sitting in the south stand it looked like we actually created an overlap in the first half with Marshall getting a walk in if Gildart had simply moved the ball on, shocking lack of basic skills.

Either he's taking the mick or Wests are in for a hell of a shock when he turns up for their pre-season

I forgot about the Sadler stuff, it came from nowhere and then seemed to be handled quite abruptly and petty.