Our first 'try' was chalked off for being a forward pass. The first try was awarded after the ref spoke to the touch judge about a possible knock on. there was no knock on so he awarded the try. The 7th tackle was not a 7th tackle as the ref had signalled that he had wiped the tackle count clean. People sometimes see only what they want to see.

This was the one where the Wish FM commentators stated it was a forward pass as well. It should be on the highlights link over the next few days.

i think they'd struggle without richards however tomkins defensively is definately replaceable, he never gets under the ball to try and hold people up once they're near the line, attacking wise he probably gives you more than wello but i'd have wello anyday ahead of him for his defence.

Yeah Tomkins is crap, how the hell we won the game yesterday with him at FB baffles me. Can we swap him for Wellens, please?

Wellens in his prime wasn't as good as Tomkins is already.

I look forward to Tomkins winning Man Of Steel in a treble winning team, then backing it up with a try in a GB win in Sydney against the Aussies.





Tomkins is class, no question.

Whilst I accept that since St Kris retired, Wellens has been (Has Been) one of the top Full Backs in Super League.



However, after watching Sam Tompkins yesterday, I am sure that we have the most exciting player in World Rugby at the moment (yes, more than Slater, Inglis, Marshall etc). Even though he has replaced Lockers as the most hated Wigan player, I stood amongst the Pussy Cat fans yesterday, who booed him constantly, but by the end, they admitted he was something unique and special and even "paint watching" Kear was forced to admit Sam was 'sensational'.



When your full back and you nil a team, you must have some defensive qualities.

Not being funny, but can you imagine Slater/Inglis/Marshall against that cr*ppy Wakey team? Leon Pryce put on an absolute masterclass against a better Wakey team last year, doesn't make him better than Benji Marshall all of a sudden.



Tomkins looked toothless for England at FB last season, let's not get ahead of ourselves. Long way to go before he's spoken about in the same breath as those guys - I desperately hope he gets there in an England shirt though.

Jonny Lomax and Gary Wheeler tore Wakefield apart last week, they're not or never will be in the same league as Benji Marshall. Sam also needs to get rid of his fear of being tackled before the four nations or we'll have a repeat of last time.

Fear of being tackled? Can you explain that one?

That fear of being tackled that you speak of is ludicrous. You're not meant to be tackled you wouldnt score many tries if you didnt avoid being tackled.



He isnt soft as I assume you're implying because I dont think many would just get up (and have a go at) a player like Ablett like he did.

Think that's a silly comment. Wello was untouchable for 2/3 years in his prime. He was scoring tries, great under high ball ( still is), great in defence( still is).



It's early days to be saying that Tomkins is the better fullback over wello. Wello has done it for ten years yet Sam is only in his 2nd year at fullback.



I'll admit tho, if Sam carries on his progress ( I think he will ) then he'll be up their with the great fullbacks/players this country had produced. He's a fantastic talent and exciting to watch. My heart stops every time he gets the ball.



To be honest, I don't lime the lad, he's very sly but its the winning of penalties he gets from holding the defender down by locking the defenders arm under his arm and neck. He doesn't need to do that silly stuff.