This sums up the sad state of the game to judge a coach on a few games of an after season competition.

was the good Friday win at st Helens not a big game?

In the circumstances I think Shaun Wane is doing pretty well.



It is difficult for an unproven coach especially an English coach, to get taken seriously at a big club. There is always an attitude amongst the supporters of "we should be better than giving an unknown a job". The only one that really did it was Brian Noble - and that because he won SL in his first season to get credibility.



I think Wane deserves a lot of credit, I would not say he has had the strongest squad in SL since he's been here, but he has topped the league in his first season and on track to top it again.

Jury is still out. Results are going well but who have we beaten? Lost to Hudds, lost to Leeds drew with Wire. Beat a broke Saints team which is a shadow of it's former self.



Hammering poor teams isn't much, lets see what happens at the business end of the season.



To boot he has had his issues with players including;

Matty Russell

Gaz Hock

Brett Finch

Eric

I wouldn't describe Saints, Leeds & Catalans as poor. Wire is the only club Wane hasn't hammered.

Wane is a victim of the awful playoff structure where league games and consistency don't matter. Reduce the playoffs to a top 4 and suddenly the league games matter and he is appreciated.

on the flipside to the first part.. this is just my opinion but I wouldn't read too much into that personally, I think how superleague is this season on the day any of the top 6 are capable of beating each other: we lost to hudds who turned over saints but lost away to wire then won at leeds, again we beat a poor saints team who turned over wire away. weather that's a good thing or not depends, but its just the current state of our league I think.



I do agree with you though we need to get it right come the end of the season.

I put money on him being the first coach sacked in SL.



I stand corrected, enormous amount of respect for the way he's used the young British players.

Matty Russell - Not good enough.

Gaz Hock - Numbskull.

Brett Finch - Dis-interested once confirmed leaving.

Eric - Overweight and poor attitude.

I think anybody who imagines that any coach "gets on" with every player, is living in cloud cuckoo land..

agreed. its no different to any work place. there are always people in a company who you dont like, but you learn to treat them with respect and professionalism. as a manager, i would rather have a working for me who was good at his job than a really nice bloke who was useless.

What you have to ask yourself is, If we did get rid who would you realistically replace him with?

Anyone other than the coach of an NRL GF winning team, and some here would go into meltdown...