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| Quote Cherry.Pie="Cherry.Pie"No, an 8 point try can be awarded when the player is in the act of scoring a try, which Sam Tomkins was.'"
Then it was a mistake by ganson
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| From the rfl website.
Offence against Try scorer 9. If a player fouls an opponent who is touching down for a try, a penalty kick at goal shall be taken from in front of the goal posts after the attempt to convert the try. After his kick has been taken the ball shall be deemed dead and play shall be restarted from the halfway line. This law applies to the period during which the ball is touched down for a try and not to any subsequent period.
Its worded a bit ambiguosly and it could be interpreted differently by people but the key part is " This law applies to the period during which the ball is touched down for a try and not to any subsequent period."
Which to me means the ball has to be down first.Ganson is the type of ref who would give an 8 point try if the rules allowed it.
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| Quote Cherry.Pie="Cherry.Pie"No, an 8 point try can be awarded when the player is in the act of scoring a try, which Sam Tomkins was.'"
But he wasn't, was he?
Example of genuine cases would be a player sliding in on a player scoring a try.
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| Quote kirkstaller="kirkstaller"But he wasn't, was he?
He was 5m out when he was taken out. 8 point tries are very rare indeed (I've only awarded one in my refereeing career) and this was definitely not an 8 point try.
Example of genuine cases would be a player sliding in on a player scoring a try.'"
How do you explain the sending off without a resulting free-kick then?
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| Furthermore, to answer the thread title a penalty try may have been awarded had Tomkins not scored the actual try.
Please don't confuse an 8 point try with a penalty try.
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| Quote Wigg'n="Wigg'n"How do you explain the sending off without a resulting free-kick then?'"
Because play had stopped following the try being scored.
It would be the same if Raynor had subsequently been dismissed for dissent whilst Richards had been taking the conversion. You wouldn't expect an extra penalty for that, would you?
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| Quote kirkstaller="kirkstaller"But he wasn't, was he?
He was 5m out when he was taken out. 8 point tries are very rare indeed (I've only awarded one in my refereeing career) and this was definitely not an 8 point try.
Example of genuine cases would be a player sliding in on a player scoring a try.'"
Could be wrong but I don't think he was 5m out was he? Without watching it again I'd say he was a metre or two out? Could be wrong, but I'd say he couldn't have been much further than that, after all he was knocked out and still managed to put the ball down well over the line, surely meaning he was in the act of placing the ball down as he was hit? Is that much different from sliding in to score? That's a genuine question and would be interested to hear from someone who obviously has a better knowledge of the rules than me!
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| Quote kirkstaller="kirkstaller"He was 5m out when he was taken out.'"
In that case I've got a 2ft penis.
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| Quote Dave26="Dave26"Could be wrong but I don't think he was 5m out was he? Without watching it again I'd say he was a metre or two out? Could be wrong, but I'd say he couldn't have been much further than that, after all he was knocked out and still managed to put the ball down well over the line, surely meaning he was in the act of placing the ball down as he was hit? Is that much different from sliding in to score? That's a genuine question and would be interested to hear from someone who obviously has a better knowledge of the rules than me!'"
Doesn't matter how far out he was, he wasn't in the act of scoring a try, which it what the rules demand if an 8 point try is to be awarded.
I've never seen an 8 point try be awarded when the player is not over the try line already.
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| Quote Pemps="Pemps"In that case I've got a 2ft penis.'"
Forgive me, I only saw the incident once (much like Ganson). He was definitely in the field of play.
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| Quote kirkstaller="kirkstaller"Doesn't matter how far out he was, he wasn't in the act of scoring a try, which it what the rules demand if an 8 point try is to be awarded.
I've never seen an 8 point try be awarded when the player is not over the try line already.'"
Fair enough. but if diving to put the ball down isn't in the act of scoring a try, what is?
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| Quote kirkstaller="kirkstaller"Forgive me, I only saw the incident once (much like Ganson). He was definitely in the field of play.
Don't get me wrong, I have no quarrell with Wigan fans, I just think that a lot of RL fans in general don't know the rules.'"
he was diving over the line so was in the act of scoring, I know the rules thanks
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