As far as I'm concerned I'd like nothing more than to have "our own" ground, no more whelan, no more wendyball pundits sniping every week, no more 'tics supporters constantly gobbin' off, it would be wonderful. And if you think this council would take whelan on, you are deluded.

Well done, Saints I'm jealous, don't make the mistake of going anywhere near a wendyball team, of any league, they have the power and the influence over all sport.

If there is going to be a game at Goodison, there are some "interesting" views in the Gwladys St end. One seat is situated so close to a steel pillar that it doesn't fold properly down.



The irony is that although you can see pretty much naff all, it's considered an unobstructed view because you can see both goals





Makes me smile to think of a blue nose having to sit in that seat. Will make me smile even more to think of a Stain having to sit in it

well it wont be me. I'll travel to Widnes no problem but I wont be driving to Liverpool or Manchester to watch. Silly idea

Yes, of course, because trying to attract people from cities with a combined population of around a million who usually only watch football to watch a game of (and possibly spark an interest in) RL is a silly idea isn't it?

I think this is more good news for Widnes to be honest. When they submit their franchise they will be able to state they have spent a full season hosting both championship and super league games, so surely that puts them in the box seat to be put back in super league. That's why I can't understand why Leigh didn't put up more of fight to get the deal.

That's daft. The timing of the move is because of a contract signed with the developers of the land at KR. If we had stayed next season, who's to say we would have achieved comparable value for the sale (agreed in more prosperous times) or even achieved a sale at all?

Looks like the next time we play in town of st helens we will get one of the standing areas and get 3000 tickets.

right, instead of wading through 8 pages of the usual trolling on both sides, heres the FACTS

1)Saints will own their new ground

2)Wigan although not owning their ground have an ironclad, longterm tenancy which in most cases can be better than owning your own ground.



So in what we all call lancashire there will hopefully be 5 Superleague teams and 1 NL team all with virtually brand new stadia.



In Yorkishire they have the Galfarm, the KC and a bunch of relics



good times indeed on this side of the penines

saints playing at our "second home" - oh the irony

For 12 month, not forever.

It was announced some time ago now that the directors had done some financial thing with their loans (I don't understand it so I'm not going to attempt to explain it) which suggests that loans may well be the way the directors have contributed their finance. We have also taken on I think three new directors this season. The sale of Knowsley Road, at £8 million, will also contribute to the funding for the stadium build.





Nope. No-one is thinking that. The idea of an investment is that it is something for the future. It will be loss-making for a few years but because we will have up to date facilities, including corporate facilities, and because we will have a stadium that people will want to go to and be able to go to - perhaps with a music licence for example (I asked if this was going to be considered at a meeting a couple of years ago and it was confirmed then that it would be considered) - then there will be a whole range of funding streams simply not available at Knowsley Road. Add to this the absence of the massive financial drain of Knowsley Road - apparently up to £750,000 a year (without any means of raising any money whatsoever except on match days and through sponsorship) - and I can see the attraction for investors with a bit of money to spare.





Personally, I wouldn't want Saints to take away any Widnes fans. I'd prefer to convert the uninitiated or persuade the disillusioned back again here in St Helens.

Genuine question again for any lingering Saints fans - whats this talk about taking the derby to Goodison Park or Anfield next season? Any truth in that? Any official comments?