I never made a claim you said it. I asked if there was anything I had missed.



Seems to me from the information that's been posted on here you are as good as dead and should give up now. Any money you spend will solely line TKs pocket and not benefit Broncos one jot.



So why bother?

and as I said, quite a lot by the looks of things!





I repeat......where have I said that? I have never made such a sweeping statement, but you keep on suggesting I have

Why?

The Landlord gets the bar and ticket revenue, but he doesn't get the shop revenue or the other "commercial" stuff.....





Because we're fans and followers of the team.....it's just the business and the club that is ed up at the moment. Me attacking the management is nothing new buddy.......I started in 2002 and I won't stop until they start to do things correctly and under this owner/management, it ain't happening this year!



The current CEO has reduced the attendances by 40% and the value of those attending by about 15% in 3 years.....do you have any faith in that track record?

Are you sure that Broncos will get merchandising revenue? It's being sourced by the Hive and sold in the Hive shop. Wouldn't surprise me if TK took a cut of the cost of selling them. I wonder how much will be left for Broncos? How much money is that going to make towards covering the player budget that the TV money does not cover.







Nope, none at all. as you have no faith in a greek cypriot soccer salesman with no track record of something the scale of a Super League club and frankly why should you. I understand that moving to the Hive is a bad deal and you can have no expectation of survival after relegation at the end of this season.



I understand the sentimentality about Broncos and wanting to support the husk that is left of what was once a top club. I would do the same if I was a Broncos fan.

gutters mate, people put words in yr mouth a bit like you put words in theirs!

For an outsider a lot of what you say can very easily be taken in the context of stay away, don't buy in to it you are all contributing to the demise by supporting the club! I am fully aware that were not your actual words but that's the way it comes across.

A little bit like you making the statement "It was an event where because they admitted they've made mistakes and can do better, some on here see as a good thing" who said that was a good thing? you putting words to other peoples comments on yr assumption

Michael, not sure what you mean by this? I have opted to make a stand against the mismanagement at the club that in reality, has done nothing other than change post codes and landlords and move us from PUMA to a cricketing gear manufacturer to one that looks after women's soccer for Barnet and handball uniforms.

I have not put words in anyone's mouths, but I do find it quite incredible that you are prepared to swallow the crap dished out at the forum whilst trying to debate against the facts and figures I post....







Firstly, we don't get many "outsiders in these here parts, but if we did, they'd be able to make their own minds up without you trying to read between the lines and translate my meaning, badly as it goes!





Nope....what I am saying is do support the team, do attend games, do cheer them on, do buy your 1.80 coffee's and muffins, but don't think for one second that ANYTHING HAS CHANGED.....because other than the venue, it hasn't!





Actually, no I am not.

from this thread











BTW Michael, this thread would have died long ago had you not repeatedly come back with poorly thought out reasons for me to cease attacking the set up at the club.

I say it is farcical for a professional Club to PAY someone to take over their admin and marketing, as well as pay them rent and then to also let them keep the revenue streams of that club too. The only income for the club in 2014 is SKY money and David Hughes. The first team costs in 2012 were a total of 2,674,605 quid.........if we are cutting that back to 1,850,000 to make ourselves more attractive to AK then we are kidding ourselves that we will be anything other than a Championship grade club in SL this year and worse in 2015.



Worse still is that the RFL are culpable in the demise of the club because they sweetened the deal to get us into the Hive in 2014 by paying the landlord to market us.



Money well spent by the look of the Barnet FC website where the first discounted offers of the year can be found!

Discounting already before the first game does not look good.

Damned if they do, damned if they don't !

isn't this the sort of marketing the club are always criticised for not doing?

What discounting before the season even starts? Devalues the purpose of buying a season ticket and shows pricing is wrong imho

Its the first home game. We are technically unbeaten at home. If we perform well infront of not only our regular fans but newcomers then they may buy season tickets. We are playing a team which have a lot of new players trying to gell so we could pull of a shock and win. We have not been thrashed every week at the moment so the fans/players etc are optimistic (blindly perhaps) the media will likely be there this first week so the bigger the crowd the better. So which game is going to be better than this bearing in mind the thrashings that everyone is forcasting is ahead of us?

It's encourages more people to come initially. Over the course of a season The hive will run both members only benefits as well as offers for all. So the end result is it is still beneficial to be a member.



A recent example is a membership offer they did to allow members to bring a friend to a game for free.

We move to an area where these is no recent history of rugby league.



We want to build up some recognition / awareness and entice newbies (Wembley RLWC showed the value of attractive ticket pricing).



If you have an issue with the overall membership package why dont you buy the bog standard membership, get 15% off your match day ticket, turn up as and when you like, or take advantage of these offers as and when they come around ?



Simple ?