I am not attacking Saints supporters, but I do believe that you have had that much success in recent years that many feel it is a divine right, just read you own board this season when matches have not always been easy and the defence has not been good, that is what I was saying. One of my friends a loyal popular side supporter every week moans about other teams lying on at the play the ball, when Saints are as bad as any other club, I would have penalised Graham twice and sent him to the sin bin in the match a Wrexham last night, which team brought in a wrestling coach? only St Helens to try and slow the match down.



I take stick as a Quins Fan as I say it as I see it, if we play bad then I will hold my hand up, too many rugby fans, far more than in football are so rose coloured never seeing wrong in their own team?



Nothing wrong with Parr! it did me no harm as a kid, Allanson Street Primary.

You are confusing 'spoilt' with 'standards'. Most of our team this year are grand finalists and challenge cup winners. They shouldn't be playing as they have been, injuries or no injuries. It's what Saints fans expect of a team largely made up of winners and internationals. Quins fans would be exactly the same if they had a team made up of a similar standard of player. That isn't being spoiled; it's knowing the capabilities of your team and seeing them fall way below.



However, most Saints fans these days are just happy to get a win, preferably without multiple injuries. Expectations change. No reason yet to let them slip out of sight, however.

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Fully agree, perhaps even more than half! at one time it was nil and in discussions I had with them it was like knocking your head against a brick wall, they were in touch with Moss Lane more than Knowsley Road. Later on and far too late Eric Ashton was the one exception, IF only he had played for his home town club and had been added to the board much earlier. a Real Gentleman!

If LMS makes it at Saints it's a sign that Quins is a viable road to the best clubs in SL, which may mean attracting more players and more young recruits. Would be good if he comes back to you after a spell away.

..... or maybe signs for Saints and comes back to us on loan like they did with Scott Moore at Hudds

news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/rugby_l ... 961108.stm Confirmed that he is off, but still not 100% on where he is to play next season.

news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/rugby_l ... 961108.stm Confirmed that he is off, but still not 100% on where he is to play next season.

Don't know if its been mentioned anywhere but you can add Purdham and Gale to the exodus.

??????? unless he's going for obvious personal reasons, I thought Rob Purdham had been granted a testimonial next season.



Where did you get your info from, facts or link please

Gale would need to find someone willing to find a transfer fee as he has 2 years left to run on his contract.

I think Purdo extended to 2011 as well, so he was with us for his testimonial year.

Not quite. Scott Moore came through our academy and was always employed by Saints. He just went on loan for two years. He was never signed to either Cas or Hudds.



I hope LMS stays with you. I'm still confused as to why we might be signing him, assuming that we are.

I was surprised at the announcement that he'd left us, as due to there being so much talk about it, I'd assumed that it was common knowledge by now!