Unlikely to happen. Sammut is only really interested in doing something unpredictable and Barthau is a bit meh. Pewhairangi, if played at SO, is a lovely runner but too similar to Sammut. There's no-one in the halves capable (or interested) in playing a sustainable, , disciplined, organising role. Rhys Williams was already showing signs of frustration v Toronto. You can have the best wingers in the world but if they don't get enough ball, and good quality at that, then it's pointless.



And, yes, the forwards are being pushed around a little too easily. Roqica doesn't run his size, nor does Evans (who's probably more of a 2nd row tbh). Ioane does, so too Battye and Spencer when fit, but other than that there are a lot of mid-sized second rowers in that squad.

Sammut maybe only interested in doing something unpredictable but on Fri he scored over 50% of our points on the night including 2 tries. Barthau also scored I believe so Meh! cannot be too bad can it?

The wingers are being systematically ignored and maybe irretrievably alienated unless the plays ( assuming we have any) are changed to build on known strengths.

The ball invariably goes right, until it gets to Purtell. Rhys is not a happy bunny.



Maybe harsh but is Daniel a captain?

What was the final score?

The attacking structure - and the ball getting into Hellewell's and Williams's hands - would improve if Kear went back at 1. Alternatively, maybe Sammut would fit better at full-back allowing Barthau to handle the left-hand side like last year.

Naderia do you need reminding? Ok let's take sammut and barthau out of that equation on the score last Fri between em they scored 18 points! So if you want to use that argument without the 2 players mentioned the score would have been 8-30 not 26-30

As for the wingers! How many tries have we bombed on the wing in the last few games through the last pass being dropped, it's got to have an effect on centres wanting to put that last pass out.

Did Kear not play FB on Friday??

Kear, Williams, Dixon are our best back 3 Our halfs are choosing to pass to the lead (easier option) when a pass out the back would release Kear and wingers. It worked last two seasons and against Hull KR. That said if we are loosing the arm wrestle in the middle its very hard to create width off slow/passive rucks.

We will be a different team with Spencer Battye, Ackers and Cunnigham back.

That's the kind of argument you'd get in a schoolyard. You can't simply say "remove the points X scored" as if those things happened in a vacuum.



Relying on a player making a run through broken play, or a moment of magic, in order to create scoring opportunities is inherently unreliable and unsustainable. Those things should be extras not the first option.



If we had halves (or at least one of them) who looked to play a more structured and sustainable game we'd find ourselves in better field positions, we'd play more of the game in our opponents end of the field, and our outside backs would get better, earlier ball to work with. We'd utilise all of our attacking options instead of ignoring some of them.

Nady you will learn how Mickey operates!! very simplistic approach

But it's the facts! People are saying sammut and barthau are to quote "meh" but they are the ones scoring the points!

But not enough if you really want to simplify it