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| Of course we are all wise after the event.
Back in 2010,2011 I don't remember there being much call to move some of the older players on early. We could have started moving out say Morley, Carvell, Briers, Michael Monaghan at that point even when they had a couple of good years in them, and started freshening up the team but I bet if we had done that there would have been a lot of players criticising Smith if those players had gone on to have good years at other clubs.
It was like Cullen releasing Sid Domic and him going on to have two great years with Wakefield and one with Hull, during which time he was actually more successful than Warrington were!
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| Quote sally cinnamon="sally cinnamon"Of course we are all wise after the event.
Back in 2010,2011 I don't remember there being much call to move some of the older players on early. We could have started moving out say Morley, Carvell, Briers, Michael Monaghan at that point even when they had a couple of good years in them, and started freshening up the team but I bet if we had done that there would have been a lot of players criticising Smith if those players had gone on to have good years at other clubs.
It was like Cullen releasing Sid Domic and him going on to have two great years with Wakefield and one with Hull, during which time he was actually more successful than Warrington were!'"
Wasn't that to do with the overseas quotas? I seem to recall it was a choice between him and Appo and at the time Appo had just been named in the dream team.
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| Quote mark_m="mark_m"Wasn't that to do with the overseas quotas? I seem to recall it was a choice between him and Appo and at the time Appo had just been named in the dream team.'"
But we did release Sid Domic to sign John Wilshere & Chris Leikvoll from St George Illawarra.
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| Quote Builth Wells Wire="Builth Wells Wire"But we did release Sid Domic to sign John Wilshere & Chris Leikvoll from St George Illawarra.'"
Both were off quota. Leikvoll had a UK passport (check out his profile) and Wilshere was KOLPAK
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| Quote Wires71="Wires71"I think you miss my point. Having players (maybe we have 3) that other sides covet is very different than signing players deemed no longer good enough for their club.'"
What were your thoughts when we signed Brett Hodgson?
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| Quote Wires71="Wires71"I think the point being made is that with careful succession planning you don't need to have to buy 8 news players in one off season and be subject to what's available. Instead project where the replacements are going to be needed on a 2 to 3 year time frame and plan your recruitment around that with 2/3 changes per season.
Bailey is a good example. Leeds no longer deem him good enough for them and get shut. We snap him up after failing to get our real targets. Result is we are buying players that are not good enough for those teams we aspire to compete with. How is that going to work - already we are at a disadvantage.'"
Sorry "failing to get our real targets"? who were our real targets and why did we not get them?
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Quote marshman777="marshman777"Sorry "failing to get our real targets"? who were our real targets and why did we not get them?'"
Real targets
Ukuma Ta'ai
Jake Lillyman
As reported www.warringtonguardian.co.uk/spo ... gn_a_prop/
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Jordan Cox
Ryan Bailey
As announced by the club
I have no idea why we did not achieve the signings of the higher calibre players.
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Quote marshman777="marshman777"Sorry "failing to get our real targets"? who were our real targets and why did we not get them?'"
Real targets
Ukuma Ta'ai
Jake Lillyman
As reported www.warringtonguardian.co.uk/spo ... gn_a_prop/
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Jordan Cox
Ryan Bailey
As announced by the club
I have no idea why we did not achieve the signings of the higher calibre players.
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| Quote getdownmonkeyman="getdownmonkeyman"What were your thoughts when we signed Brett Hodgson?'"
Wasn't Hodgson only offered a 1 year deal by Hudds? So he wasn't deemed "not good enough" for the subsequent season.
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| Quote mark_m="mark_m"Wasn't that to do with the overseas quotas? I seem to recall it was a choice between him and Appo and at the time Appo had just been named in the dream team.'"
Yes, it was a choice of two out of Burns, Domic and Appo and we made the wrong one in hindsight.
I guess the thinking was that Burns and Domic were similar players, and we had signed Forshaw and had high hopes for Paul Noone at the time, so Appo gave us something different with his pace.
Actually even if it came down to a choice of Burns or Domic I'd have chosen Domic, just about.
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| Quote Wires71="Wires71"Wasn't Hodgson only offered a 1 year deal by Hudds? So he wasn't deemed "not good enough" for the subsequent season.'"
This argument about a player being deemed "not good enough" by their previous club is more about the judgement of that club.
I wonder what the St George Illawarra fans think of Mike Cooper.
Warrington agreed to release him so he could sign for the Dragons. If he was not deemed good enough for Warrington, how on earth could anyone think he was good enough to play in the NRL?
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| I seem to recall Appo being asked to move to fullback following Briers return from a long term injury it didn't go down too well with Appo, understandable as Appo was stronger, quicker, and could kick goals, if my memory is right then it turned out we kept an unhappy player, but no way could you play Briers at fullback.
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| Quote ricominciare="ricominciare"....but no way could you play Briers at fullback.'"
That was not the best coaching move way back when.
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