He also doesn't have as many miles on the clock due to his numerous stints out if the game.

Hock has undoubtably lost some physical ability, but he is still one of the finest backrowers I've seen in many a year with the loss in attribute.

Unfortunately unlike other players, he's been unable to develop his mental attribute to offset his physical decline.



I'd have him on a basic one year rolling contract with win and conduct conditions for bonus in place.

It's a NO from me, apart from sending out the wrong message IMO, the jury has always been out as far as I'm concerned on the pro's and con's of Hock in your team even when he was in his prime and he's not getting any better

Smith IS the man for nurturing the best out of, let's say, ill-disciplined players. If Smith mentors him and Hock decides he wants to end his career on a high, winning things (hopefully) and utilising the obvious talents he has then that's got to be a good thing for him and us. I'm not his biggest fan, he's thick as mince, but i'd love a fully focussed Hock and all his grunt and talent in our pack. With Monas leaving i do worry about our lack of on-field brains next season though.

i've hated the man with a passion since he made his debut, however if we've got money spare, i'd throw him a modest 12 month contract on the proviso that he's a squad player, and its up to him to knuckle down and prove himself.

I'm fighting your corner fmc but what he is is a leopard. He'll always be the same.

Its whether his addition to the squad over the course of a season can balance out a red card or 2 plus a ban or 2 that he will undoubtedly receive each season.



£60k contract with a £5k monthly bonus for good behaviour. One balls up and he forfeits the bonus that month and for the continuation of the ban.

The fact we are suggesting a good behaviour clause in a 31 year olds contract tells me all we need to know about Hock.

We do need another line breaker Hock is just that, RU season under way any movement in that direction appears not to be happening, I feel it will be to another SL club, if he were to come here I would be a little concerned but would trust the clubs judgement.

I see him as a direct replacement for Westwood who for me is a bigger question.

would he not be a direct replacement for waterhouse?

Where is all the talk of Hock coming from?

Just can't see it and wouldn't be over happy about it.

It's the out of season open season!



MD quota for quota...is Sims.