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| Totally agree FB. In all the years watching Wire since 1987- the worst effort per £ spent. Names such Teitzal and Roach (who I liked) are nothing compared to this Benson of Beds recliner. Churchill said 'never was so much owed by so few'. When asotasi leaves TS will be saying 'never has so much less been given by what should have been so much more'.
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| Having analysed Ashton Sims from an entirely disinterested perspective I have only one real conclusion to make:
The harder he tries the more he's written off.
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| He doesn't have the weight of Hill, Walmsley and Mosoe but whatever happens he gets stuck in and has no fear. Makes a big difference. 'It's not the size of the dog in a fight, but the size of the fight in the dog'. He was instrumental in us beating Wigan. Sims was heard on (I think) the refs microphone telling the pie front row that 'he'd have all of them'. Someone like that makes a huge difference. I remember a couple of years back when we played you guys at the Home and we won (for once). My work mates who were all saints fans said that when Morley came on after 20 (first appearance after a while with a torn biscep) changed the game as the saints forwards were intimidated and wouldn't run at him.
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| Quote Or thane="Or thane"And still absolutely no mention of any props or even the hint of us being linked with one
Catalans have just signed big dave Taylor, I know he can be lazy but put him back at prop rather then second row which he plays and he dominates. '"
Only in Warrington is it possible to see someone all but write a player off and then criticize his club for not signing him.
Have you considered a career in YouTube?
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| Quote Mugwump="Mugwump"Only in Warrington is it possible to see someone all but write a player off and then criticize his club for not signing him.
Have you considered a career in YouTube?'"
Or thane said that 'he can be lazy'. He's hardly written the player off. He's just said that he would be great to sign even if he can be lazy. Fairly reasonable. Same as Josh Perry.
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| Quote Gazwire="Gazwire"Or thane said that 'he can be lazy'. He's hardly written the player off. He's just said that he would be great to sign even if he can be lazy. Fairly reasonable. Same as Josh Perry.'"
He's just said the player is prone to picking and choosing his moments. He's also said his performance nosedives if the coach moves him from his preferred position. It's reasonable to speculate the former might just be related to the latter and he has an attitude problem - but all this is kind of academic:
Does this sound like a champion player?
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| Quote Or thane="Or thane"And still absolutely no mention of any props or even the hint of us being linked with one
Catalans have just signed big dave Taylor, I know he can be lazy but put him back at prop rather then second row which he plays and he dominates. love me there'll be no bloody props left anywhere by the time we get round to it
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He's just said the player is prone to picking and choosing his moments. He's also said his performance nosedives if the coach moves him from his preferred position. It's reasonable to speculate the former might just be related to the latter and he has an attitude problem - but all this is kind of academic:
Does this sound like a champion player?"[/i'"
-Can you very kindly explain Mugwump how your response correlates to 'Or Thane's post?
The (Dave Taylor) player has nothing to do with any Wire speculation so he can't be 'picking and choosing his moments'. He might be picking his nose at a chosen moment but it has
nothing to do with Wire. The rest - It just means he can be lazy but is is better at prop?
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| Quote Mugwump="Mugwump"He's just said the player is prone to picking and choosing his moments. He's also said his performance nosedives if the coach moves him from his preferred position. It's reasonable to speculate the former might just be related to the latter and he has an attitude problem - but all this is kind of academic:
Does this sound like a champion player?'"
ahh so you're speculating..... carry on.
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| I'm with mugwump on this. ...you can't give reasons why a player isn't that good and say we should have been in for him.
Taylor is an odd one he's a huge unit. ..he has some ball handling skills. ..he looks ferocious. ...but I've seen him at times look like a frightened school kid taking his first ever hit up. He would most definitely not be the answer to any of our problems. ..
He's a luxury player. ...if we had Morley carvell wood and hill.... he'd have been a nice Solomona type player. ...messing around on the flanks on the back of their hard work running over small players and offloading like a goose.
It'll be interesting to see how he goes.
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| At least someone can read properly Gazwire 
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| What I meant was we've missed out on another quality forward. Yeah he can be lazy sometimes which has put a few coaches off, but 9 times out of 10 he's awesome. I was saying Catalans have signed a mint player I wish we had signed.
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