I don’t think him being dependable is enough, second row these days needs to offer an attacking threat - he just doesn’t. Put him in a position he can get stuck in at 13 and I think you have a different player.

Hey, I'm open to be persuaded, but personally, I find him massively underwhelming. Think he contributes significantly to the fact that once we get close to an opposition's line we begin to look clueless, as when the ball reaches him, then very little explosive or positive seems to happen, which is surely what you want from a quality back rower.



Basically, he's a modern era Gary Sanderson - dependable defensively, mediocre in attack.. suppose it depends what you want from your second rower?

the moment i pressed submit on this, i knew how it was gonna go, i should have got in first really.

I'm very much of this opinion, and i'll start this next bit by saying, i've been very open for my dislike of mamo when we signed him, i still dont want to see him at fullback or wing, if i can avoid it, however at centre, the lad has been wonderful, he's become a real strike weapon just purely being able to outpace his opposite number, and thats off his own back, as we're not creating any space for him.



Someone said he's not good enough for a title winning team, i'd argue he's one of those lesser value players that you need in your squad, you can't have superstars 1 to 17/21 but his pace and acceleration are his x factor to make defences take notice, outside of inaction man hughes and blakes you can see it from the moon dummy.



i''ll be disapointed if we let him go. which is looking kinda likely.

Good luck to them both - it’s a short career.

At the start of the season I was hoping we’d retain Mata’utia, but he’s been very poor so far this season (the semi-final aside). Some of his defence has been atrocious and he’s taken to running sideways from right to left with the ball for some reason.

Ollie Holmes is playing well at the moment. I don’t think there’s much doubt about his ability, just about his consistency and injury record.

Neither will take you to the next level and we’ll replace them pretty easily with new players.

This.



I don't see matautia as a good signing really. Still I think we need to judge him by what he does in a wire shirt.

Holmes is better than Hughes in that position, we don’t need to sign (and can’t afford to sign) world class players in each position to win a Grand Final, plenty of average players win grand finals. It’s about Powell assembling a squad to win it, clearly he feels these two can add to the squad and are better than players already here. We have to trust that judgement IMO, including Matautia for Mamo.

I’ve worked in situations where a new boss has brought some of their previous employees into the team.

They are never trusted, because their loyalty is to the boss rather than their team-mates. Everyone is careful what they say around them because they think it’ll be straight back to the boss, and also that they are the boss’ favourites.

Be interesting to see how it works in a RL context.

And not all signings are based on a players ability. These two may well be bringing a work ethic that Powell wishes to instil. I like Holmes, would prefer Mamo to Matautia but it's not a huge difference. Plus if we have Widdop and Williams in the halves we could probably get away with Paul Noone in the second row and Ronnie Kettlewell in the centres.

I'd like to know who they are replacing, it would help to form an opinion.

I see now why you're so warmly received on the Wigan board.

A lot of the current Warrington first team won’t be here next year anyway, so if your theory is true it’s not going to make much of a difference when most of the players are in a new environment.



I doubt there will be any spilt in the camp.