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| Roberts first game with us, I expected more but harsh to judge off that. He needs to improve the understanding though and fast. Kevin browns decision making in their 20 and last play kicking options are plain awful, frustratingly though I do think he is a good player. We need someone else doing those plays, step-up tyrone.
Russell hasn't added anything to his limited skill set and we still aren't working hard enough off the ball in attack to give out halves options. We need to show some form next week against hudds.
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| Quote CW8="CW8"Roberts first game with us, I expected more but harsh to judge off that. He needs to improve the understanding though and fast. Kevin browns decision making in their 20 and last play kicking options are plain awful, frustratingly though I do think he is a good player. We need someone else doing those plays, step-up tyrone.
Russell hasn't added anything to his limited skill set and we still aren't working hard enough off the ball in attack to give out halves options. We need to show some form next week against hudds.'"
Spot on this, Russell must have it in his contract that he must play.but in fairness most were utter garbage tonight, for me Ratchford was the worst one.
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| Rome wasn't built in a day. I thought we played ok ish. Leeds goal line defence and our disorganisation whilst Goodwin was off the field were the the reasons we lost tonight.
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| Quote karetaker="karetaker"Spot on this, Russell must have it in his contract that he must play.but in fairness most were utter garbage tonight, for me Ratchford was the worst one.'"
Ratchford cost us the most points that's for sure. I wish we had managed to sign Jack walker, if for nothing more than to have Ashton golding give us away enough points for us to take the win. He played well walker but we didn't ask enough questions of their defence in all honesty.
I thought we looked better with philbin on the pitch.
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| Quote silver2="silver2"Rome wasn't built in a day. I thought we played ok ish. Leeds goal line defence and our disorganisation whilst Goodwin was off the field were the the reasons we lost tonight.'"
and atkins showing off ratchfords howlers,our 2 half backs looking clueless...
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| Ratchford continues to be awful.
( I've been saying for years, if you want to win things employ a real full back).
Both wingers pretty much as bad.
The new signings have time to settle in but some of the old guard continue to drag the team down.
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| Ratchford is a massive issue for this team, his supposed utility value stops us adding to crucial areas. We COULD have signed jack walker but didnt (nicey nicey as usual) and now we have the worst full back in sl, but dont worry he's also the 23rd best centre and the 19th best halfback. Getting shut of ratchford would be a massive step in the right direction...price will also annoy me if he continues not to pick livett.
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| Quote ratticusfinch="ratticusfinch"Ratchford is a massive issue for this team, his supposed utility value stops us adding to crucial areas. We COULD have signed jack walker but didnt (nicey nicey as usual) and now we have the worst full back in sl, but dont worry he's also the 23rd best centre and the 19th best halfback. Getting shut of ratchford would be a massive step in the right direction...price will also annoy me if he continues not to pick livett.'"
What makes you think Walker was signing? I think we were a play me/pay me or I'm off decoy. Sure Ratchford had a mare tonight I don't recall him being that unsteady under a high ball previously, it was Russellesque.
As far as the game is concerned a bit more belief, effort and smartness would have seen us gain an unlikely win tonight. Sure Leeds looked better than us, their defence was first class, they made fewer errors and yet they were catchable. Goodwin and Philbin played well I thought Brown was decent enough, Hughes put more effort in than last year, Clarke put a shift in, Roberts will get better as will BMM hopefully.
Yes we lost, but, all is not lost let's see a reaction from all concerned
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| My thoughts are the same. Looked a lot better than the first game of last year and despite being clear second best for the most part, we could have won. The champions looked like champions and we looked disjointed but with plenty of improvement in us.
Once the communication improves and the new players get more game time (it was Roberts first match since surgery he’ll clearly get fit and look good on the hard pitches), then I think we will do okay. Probably a year too early to contest the top 4 but as long as we improve over the season we have every chance.
Goodwin looks class. Think Russell will get dropped for Brown and Westwood doesn’t seem to offer anything but penalties, so maybe give someone else a chance.
Most importantly we looked nothing like we did at this time last year.
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| An overly negative reaction on here in my opinion. Leeds looked like a more well oiled machine than we did which is not unsurprising. Both defences were very good and levelled the game somewhat. From what I saw our attack already looks more threatening than it did last year and will get better. Roberts showed some good signs of what he can do ball-in-hand. Goodwin will be a top centre. Hughes has remembered how to pass! Atkins should have scored. We looked vulnerable defensively on that right hand edge though. Russell will never win an airborne contest for the ball, he's just too small. Makes plenty of meters though.
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| I saw Russell make plenty of yards, get zero opportunities to score, not scoot and he still gets bagged. Tough crowd. We got done by poor defence off two kicks and a shocker from Ratchford on Hall (I thought I saw a bit of an obstruction in that play by Leeds but haven't watched it back). The same game last year would have seen us concede 30 I reckon, so I'm not too disheartened.
So far I reckon Price has delivered what he promised. And as suggested more work in attack needed.
I'm fairly positive tonight.
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| Whilst Leeds also have new players to gel, bear in mind we're very close to the WCC - as a club Leeds will have been aiming to hit the ground running. There's far less need for yourselves to try to peak so early.
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