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| Quote Moving Forward="Moving Forward"As a referee myself, there is noting harder than taking control of a game. There's so many different thing to be looking for and that's just when you're on your own. Starts with the kick off;
are players offside?
Then has the ball gone out of play from the kick off?
Has it bounced and gone out?
Has it gone out on the full?
IF it hasn't, has the player knocked on when he's catching it?
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Has the acting half back knocked on picking the ball up?
And that's just for one tackle. There's probably loads more too but I cant think off the top of my head. Next time anybody is at a live rugby match they should take off their tinted specs and think about every decision that the referee has to make. Even when there's no penalties there is still a decision that has to be made. Before you all sit there with your pie and pints, you should get out and referee a game for yourself.'"
What is the rule if in the act of scoring a try the ball touches the try line and touchline simultaneously?
I wouldn't have given Charnleys second try on Friday, but I'm just wondering if that happened is that why it was given.
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| Quote Rogues Gallery="Rogues Gallery"What is the rule if in the act of scoring a try the ball touches the try line and touchline simultaneously?
I wouldn't have given Charnleys second try on Friday, but I'm just wondering if that happened is that why it was given.'"
What would the rule be had his foot had touched the try line and touch line simultaneously? Player out of play possibly. So why should it differ for the ball?
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| Quote Warrington Wolf="Warrington Wolf"What would the rule be had his foot had touched the try line and touch line simultaneously? Player out of play possibly. So why should it differ for the ball?'"
That's slightly different unless he is touching the ball down at exactly the same time. If he's not then he's touch in goal as the ball hasn't been grounded.
The reason I asked the question is because I don't know the answer, and sought clarification. Fridays may have been given as benefit of the doubt, but that's not what came up on the screen.
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| Stuart Cummings said at the time on Friday that if that were the case, then it would be no try.
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| On report seems pointless seeing as they can still charge players based on camera evidence that none of the refs saw.
With the GOB incidents i'd have given a yellow on both occasions just so that there is some form of punishment in that game. It doesn't help Saints if Wigan and Catalans had players suspended in their next game.
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| Quote Horatio Yed="Horatio Yed"On report seems pointless seeing as they can still charge players based on camera evidence that none of the refs saw.
With the GOB incidents i'd have given a yellow on[i both[/i occasions just so that there is some form of punishment in that game. It doesn't help Saints if Wigan and Catalans had players suspended in their next game.'"
It's happened 3 times - Bradfords Scruton took him out when he was at Cas .... clearly being targeted as it also removes Saints first choice goal kicker from the game.
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| Three match ban for Taia for the assault on O'Brien.
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| I think 3 matches is the maximum for a grade 3.
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| Quote morrisseyisawire="morrisseyisawire"I, and I suspect many others, have some sympathy with refs plight, though you're job would be a lot easier if you had competent touch judges. BUT their PRIMARY obligation is the protection of the players - if they miss a forward pass you might get called horrible names but no-one is going to die. However, allowing the current acts of thuggery to go unpunished and thereby condoning it, is going to end with someone in hospital, or worse.'"
It's a difficult job to do when it's just yourself and no touch judges. On a Sunday morning you have to make a decision there and then and even without video replays and conversations with touch judges I'd have send the Catalan forward off for his shoulder charge to O'Brien. I'd have also probably sent Scott Taylor off for his on O'Brien, too.
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| Quote Rogues Gallery="Rogues Gallery"What is the rule if in the act of scoring a try the ball touches the try line and touchline simultaneously?
I wouldn't have given Charnleys second try on Friday, but I'm just wondering if that happened is that why it was given.'"
I'm one of the few people who think his try was a try.
The ruling is as follows, as the goal lines themselves are in-goal a try can be scored by an attacking player grounding the ball on the goal line, but not at the foot of the posts in the field of play.
This is taken straight from the RFL rulebook on their website.
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| Quote Moving Forward="Moving Forward"I'm one of the few people who think his try was a try.
The ruling is as follows, as the goal lines themselves are in-goal a try can be scored by an attacking player grounding the ball on the goal line, but not at the foot of the posts in the field of play.
This is taken straight from the RFL rulebook on their website.'"
As far as I could see, and every other viewer in the club I was in at the time, he put the ball down straight on the "Touch and Goal " line, which should never have been allowed. This is not the same as the goal line.
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| James Child has been excellent in this Wigan v Huddersfield match.
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